Croydon bar owner 'banned from playing music'
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jamiemartin721  Reading 14 Mar 16 9.37am |
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Originally posted by 7mins
You make a good point, and rap music is s***e these days, I still feel singing about killing gays is worse than singing about killing fellow gangstas... suppose it comes down to there being a element of choice in being a gangsta, where as you have no choice if you're gay. It'll pass. In my experience, people who are so ardently anti-gay that they just can't let it go, are invariably reacting to their own desire to taste cock. Banning it just justifies the 'persecution complex' of the absurdly stupid people. Just the moment someone can be shown to have acted on their inspiration, sue the living s**t out of their record company. I wouldn't buy their records, or even p1ss on these people if they were on fire, but until they cross the line of acting or inciting other to act, they're on the right side of the law. Sooner or later some of them will be shown to be total hypocrites, and the whole thing will fizzle out. Kind of like how the 'Red Pill Male Supremacy' f**ktards who took the Matrix as a geek symbol, look rather stupid now that both writers and directors have transgendered. Its like all those White Power bands, ultimately, they're s**t and appeal to tiny minded people who have s**t lives, s**t taste in music, and blame everyone else for their s**t lives, rather than actually do something to improve their own lives. I'd never really heard of this s**te before this post, and my concern is, the more you legislate against something with minor appeal or try to ban it, the more appealing it becomes.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Mar 16 9.39am |
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Originally posted by 7mins
I'd ban music that advocates killing cops. But Copkiller and F**k da Police are classic tracks.
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 topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 14 Mar 16 9.53am |
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I'm surprised that a bar in Croydon is happy to have such openly homophobic songs played. What does that say about the DJ and the club? Would they be happy to play Screwdriver and (I can't think of another openly racist band but I'm sure they are available) songs? Not in favour of censorship of music but self censorship but the club is only common sense.
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| A89M Streatham 14 Mar 16 9.57am |
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Originally posted by 7mins
There is a song called "boom boom burn" There’s also a song called ‘Clarks’ about wearing Clarks branded suede shoes. If you trail through every genre of music I’m sure you’ll find homophobic referencing somewhere but to ban a whole genre because of it, is ridiculous. The ban is clearly in place because the police believe that it attracts the wrong clientele – it has nothing to do with generating hate towards gays.
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| Hoof Hearted 14 Mar 16 10.00am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
But Copkiller and F**k da Police are classic tracks. ... and I like that one that goes "666 is the number of da beast.... turn it aroun and you get da police!" Be careful what you wish to be banned!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Mar 16 10.03am |
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The only good homophobe is a dead homophobe.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Mar 16 10.07am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The only good homophobe is a dead homophobe. Bender
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| johnfirewall 14 Mar 16 11.57am |
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A woman left her baby in that bar with a couple of my mates while she went to buy a 'pint of milk'. After returning to collect the baby she struck up conversation with another stranger who she subsequently went home with. This was on a Saturday afternoon while they were showing a dodgy stream of a 3pm game.
Certain genres have been entirely restricted in recent years over violent content but that was in response to multiple incidents, so unless the police do a better job of justifying such moves and relating them to specific crimes, people are going to attribute it to other agenda.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 14 Mar 16 12.17pm |
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Homophobia? Time to close down churches? As always it should be about balance. If there haven't been any issues related to the music then I would imagine the police are on incredibly dodgy ground. It is probably more a case of they want to close the place down by whatever means necessary. Country music next?
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| npn Crowborough 14 Mar 16 12.36pm |
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It really doesn't seem like a complicated issue to me - if you wouldn't be allowed to preach it / say it in public / write it down, then you shouldn't be exempt from those rules simply because you've set the same words to some form of beat. I don't see music or art as having any right to exemption from the defined rules, otherwise Jihadi John and his mates could just make the same hate-filled, violence-encouraging speeches, and simply set them to music.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Mar 16 12.44pm |
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Originally posted by npn
It really doesn't seem like a complicated issue to me - if you wouldn't be allowed to preach it / say it in public / write it down, then you shouldn't be exempt from those rules simply because you've set the same words to some form of beat. I don't see music or art as having any right to exemption from the defined rules, otherwise Jihadi John and his mates could just make the same hate-filled, violence-encouraging speeches, and simply set them to music. They should, it provides a better outlet maybe than acting on that anger. Art should reflect society and issues in society, even ones I don't agree with, because its better maybe to have 200 people expressing their hatred of gay people in a club venue, that clearly no one who is gay is going to be in than expressing that prejudice elsewhere. If people were coming out of the gig, and going straight round the nearest gay bar and kicking off, then its an issue. I remember when going to gigs, how much of a cathartic rush a good bit of wrecking was. Better that people have somewhere to safely vent their hate, than actively targeting people.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Mar 16 12.45pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Bender Bendee
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