My great grandad walked out of his job, it was the 4th night in to a cruise, he was on look out duty..... said he was too cold for this s***.

Never did hear from him again, still, i would have thought he'd enjoy the Titanic.

This was once a quality forum....

Oh really, and of course you don't know what you are talking about because you've never experienced it. What would you do fold up and walk away for Queen and country? Give up and surrender because you don't give a to$$ about your self-respect and the welfare of your family? In over thirty years of loyal service I could probably count the total number of my sick days on both hands. If you are being bullied (which is effectively what it is) you need to keep calm, know your entitlements and play the game. Otherwise, you may suffer a longer-term illness, stress/ depression/ stroke/ possibly even suicide or by over reacting cause yourself other problems including even a disciplinary. Just one more comment ...are you a heartless Tory with the preconception that everyone is out to suck the blue blood out of the rich and effluent?

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An in joke, or just a typo?

Anyway why don't you go and spout your socialist worker rhetoric outside the parliament buildings along with the other rent-a-mobs, at least then I can avoid it.

Many times...but I console myself with the fact that my lot get into a sweat when I walk into the office a couple of hours late and wearing a suit...which I do from time to time to make myself feel better...

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Doesn't work like that with self employment. Mr Workthesystem has quoted for 4 days, at 200 a day = 800. If he takes time sick, he can only claim statuary sick pay under government legislation from the state (most won't bother).

Now the example is more like Mr Average approaches a company for the quote, the company will quote a fixed fee with mark up which will cover the 'costs of business' including staff pay and contractual obligations to staff. If someone is off sick, then that eats into the profit margins of the company.

But likely as not Mr Average won't directly foot the bill - although most companies will of course seek to offset operating costs, such as contractual obligations, through quotes.

Mr Average is also of course paying for company's contributions to things like pension schemes, maternity leave, sick pay, holiday pay where applicable.

Personally, I don't agree with false sick days, but most permanent employees probably will take a few over the year and its considered a 'cost of doing business' - Certainly when I was a permanent worker I took days off sick when I probably would have come in as self employed (I was sick, but the incentives of suffering are different when you work for yourself).

But also companies that f**k their employees over or treat them like s**t shouldn't be surprised or upset when their employees do the same in return.

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