Correct me if I am wrong but was it not some of those on the Right who nearly wiped the entire Jewish race off the face of the earth and neo-groups of similar persuasion keep that warped fantasy alive?

As for the councillor - she should be prosecuted and jailed if she has broken any law and I hope she has.

It's obvious why that one woman would take such a vile stance. More generally I'd say the left support Palestine as the weaker entity. However there's still plenty of sympathy directed towards oppressed groups turning to terror, but quite selectively. The official British line in 1948 was quite confused and I can't speculate on what liberal views may have dictated around that time, but I'd hope they were as partisan as they are at present. To be fair I can't say how much of this venom is directed at individuals in the UK, I'd hope none, but I've not seen this many boycotts since the Apartheid era and I while on the wrong side of the river today I walked past a Jewish community centre which had 3 security guards. Maybe it's just a lefty trend like supporting St Pauli or Dulwich Hamlet. I mean how would one actually 'Free Palestine?'. I suppose the litmus test would be whether the left would support a movement which resulted in Israeli (read Jewish, because this could affect all citizens not just those acting or fighting on behalf of the government) bloodshed.

Back to the story though, Luton is clearly fcuked up and this only gets addressed when some IDL morons go up there.

Edited by johnfirewall (10 Apr 2016 7.29pm)

Correct me if I am wrong but was it not some of those on the Right who nearly wiped the entire Jewish race off the face of the earth and neo-groups of similar persuasion keep that warped fantasy alive?

As for the councillor - she should be prosecuted and jailed if she has broken any law and I hope she has.

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In the same way that Germans were not the same as Nazis?
In ideological terms you are right of course but in practice we still bombed German cities because they were under the control of Nazis. Israel was created solely for Jews in line with Jewish tradition and is run by Jews.
I'm sure the Palestinians or Arabs in general don't really care too much about ideological definitions.

Do you know any Jews who condemn Israeli policy? There are dissenters but the bulk of Jewish opinion which carries much weight in the US media supports Israel.
Personally I have no particular love or dislike for either party but the irony of the Jewish occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, that they claim in the name of the semi mythical, Biblical land of Israel, is unavoidable.

quote=Hrolf The Ganger;2978635]

In the same way that Germans were not the same as Nazis?
In ideological terms you are right of course but in practice we still bombed German cities because they were under the control of Nazis. Israel was created solely for Jews in line with Jewish tradition and is run by Jews.
I'm sure the Palestinians or Arabs in general don't really care too much about ideological definitions.

Do you know any Jews who condemn Israeli policy? There are dissenters but the bulk of Jewish opinion which carries much weight in the US media supports Israel.
Personally I have no particular love or dislike for either party but the irony of the Jewish occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, that they claim in the name of the semi mythical, Biblical land of Israel, is unavoidable.

About 22% of Israeli Jews said they strongly supported the establishment of a Palestinian state in a January 2016 opinion poll.

If we took that across to the UK,it would mean a point of view (albeit minority) subscribed to by more than 10 million people,hardly the odd one or two...For example, to give a sense of proportion to our right wing bretheren, UKIP currently poll at about 16%.

A US poll in November 2014 recorded that 72% of US Jews supported the establishment of a Palestinian state including E. Jerusalem as its capital.80% supported a complete ban on settlement building in the occupied territories.

Edited by legaleagle (11 Apr 2016 12.54pm)