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View big_palace_fan's Profile big_palace_fan Flag 13 May 16 1.28pm Send a Private Message to big_palace_fan Add big_palace_fan as a friend

Anyone else feel much more at home when in Paris than many dives up and down England we have to go to for away days?

 

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Hoof your points about Germany and France make some sense but politically, Germany especially (who rely on the EU remaining together for the Euro as it pushes down the price of their currency allowing them cheaper exports) would want to make an example so that Holland etc would not also want to leave.

Would take the short term hit for long run stable EU

 

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View fed up eagle's Profile fed up eagle Flag Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 13 May 16 4.29pm Send a Private Message to fed up eagle Add fed up eagle as a friend

Originally posted by big_palace_fan

Anyone else feel much more at home when in Paris than many dives up and down England we have to go to for away days?

Yeah I feel at home in Paris being shot at by terrorists and bombs going off, oh and of course people jabbering away in a foreign language. Just like London.

Edited by fed up eagle (13 May 2016 8.16pm)

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 May 16 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by big_palace_fan

Your attempt to discredit many highly intelligent economists because some economists 25 years ago got a prediction wrong (not even necessarily wrong as there is no counterfactual) is ridiculous.

Economically, it is clear, incredibly clear, we will be worse off for leaving. If someone could explain how we would be made better off I would love to hear it.

Arguments about reduction in red tape or free to do other trade deals do not stand up. Our deal that would eventually come (after about 10 years as the Eu would string it out to make an example of the UK) would mean abiding by the red tape they have over goods and services. Furthermore, the red tape often includes things like safety of produce - a good thing for EU citizens.
We have the best possible kind of deal with our largest trading partners at the moment. The amount of trade we do with other nations is minuscule in comparison. Due to the makeup of our respective economies, there isn't actually a huge deal we can trade with growing but still third world countries. Our trade is largely done with similar countries - Germany France Holland Italy Ireland Belgium etc. We have a deal with all of them already

UK exports to EU countries = 45%
UK exports to other countries = 55%

In 2008 the 2 crossed at 50% and since then exports to EU countries are still falling and exports to countries outside of the EU are rising.

With regards, to EU exports into the UK. I suppose they're not bothered about losing sales if we're such a large trading partner.

It'll take time to work things out/negotiate and, as it happens, we don't actually leave on 24th June anyway. 2 years at least isn't it?

Undoubtedly there'll be some difficulties but adapt we can. Did Germany keep with a short-term mindset during the 1950s-'80s when rebuilding their economy?

Shall we just always focus on the next 2 years and s0d the next decade or 2 or 3? We've done that for too long and it never really gets us anywhere. No forward planning. Fire fighting all the time.

Cameron has conveniently forgotten his dislike of the EU for his own preservation. Talk of leaving all forgotten. Suits his economic career span.

 


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Hoof Hearted 13 May 16 6.46pm

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Have to agree Kermit, cant we all just take a deep breath, laugh a bit more and just vote remain ffs...its quite easy really

I like you Johny.

You amuse me greatly.

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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

I like you Johny.

You amuse me greatly.

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Thank you Hoof and its the weekend, so I reckon we should all take your advice again, get out and enjoy the spring weather and enjoy the footie....unless we lose ofcourse, then we can all tear the bejaysus out of each other again!!

 

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Hoof Hearted 14 May 16 10.40am

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Thank you Hoof and its the weekend, so I reckon we should all take your advice again, get out and enjoy the spring weather and enjoy the footie....unless we lose ofcourse, then we can all tear the bejaysus out of each other again!!

Yep.... get a bit of sun on your backs and chill out!

I think we should call a truce till after the Cup Final!

Regards...

 

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Hoof Hearted 14 May 16 10.47am

Originally posted by big_palace_fan

Hoof your points about Germany and France make some sense but politically, Germany especially (who rely on the EU remaining together for the Euro as it pushes down the price of their currency allowing them cheaper exports) would want to make an example so that Holland etc would not also want to leave.

Would take the short term hit for long run stable EU

Glad to hear you are taking some of what I say onboard.

I can't see any of the French Farmers, VW, Audi or Mercedes dwelling too long not earning from British exports whilst the EU makes an example of us.... can you?

Money talks.

 

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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Yep.... get a bit of sun on your backs and chill out!

I think we should call a truce till after the Cup Final!

Regards...

Best advice yet Hoof, will be a magical weekend either way ....but if we win i reckon we should all just forget about all this eu guff anyway. Enjoy!

 

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Hoof Hearted 14 May 16 11.02am

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Best advice yet Hoof, will be a magical weekend either way ....but if we win i reckon we should all just forget about all this eu guff anyway. Enjoy!

I didn't take my own advice... Doh

Anyway.... here's a picture of Katherine Jenkins just to take your minds off politics.

Lovely Jubblies!

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 17 8.43pm

True colours.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Sep 17 8.45pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

^^^^^^^^^**^**

Oh Katherine.

 


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