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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 05 May 16 12.35pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

That's pretty messed up. Let's just say the Chief Rabbi who was turned away (and now can't vote as he's going abroad) won't be the only one in Barnet who wasn't going to be voting for Labour...

What's the 'amended register' anyway? Anyone named Cohen removed?

Edited by johnfirewall (05 May 2016 12.44pm)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 May 16 12.37pm

Originally posted by fed up eagle

Don't tell me, the whiter than white Labour party are in the clear over this are they?

Who knows? Doesn't lessen the charge the Tories face though does it?


I hate whataboutery arguments. Cameron uses this tactic a lot during pmq's.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 05 May 16 12.46pm

Originally posted by fed up eagle

Don't tell me, the whiter than white Labour party are in the clear over this are they?

Well they haven't been accused. Labour have had a few incidents in the past relating to election fraud, which I think in at least one case, saw prison sentences.

For me, it doesn't matter who is more guilty or more involved, in any democracy, election fraud must be on the most serious crimes you can commit. Should be on a par with treason, irrespective of your politics.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 May 16 10.53pm

I see more of the press are covering this now the local elections are over...

 

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Hoof Hearted 07 May 16 10.23am

So I've read the thread and the report.

It seems the Tories have paid for a bit of accommodation and a plush bus to ferry people around during an election campaign and not accounted for it 100% accurately.

Is that really that bad?

They haven't forged ID's or ballot papers - or some similar fraudulent act against the voting process.

This thursday, the local Labour entourage were giving little old ladies near me a lift to polling booth and back and I'll bet that's not accounted for either.

Move on..... nothing serious to see here.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 May 16 10.28am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

So I've read the thread and the report.

It seems the Tories have paid for a bit of accommodation and a plush bus to ferry people around during an election campaign and not accounted for it 100% accurately.

Is that really that bad?

They haven't forged ID's or ballot papers - or some similar fraudulent act against the voting process.

This thursday, the local Labour entourage were giving little old ladies near me a lift to polling booth and back and I'll bet that's not accounted for either.

Move on..... nothing serious to see here.


Nothing to see? They have broken electoral financial rules to gain advantage in a general election. That is against the law and undemocratic.

 

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Hoof Hearted 07 May 16 10.38am

Originally posted by nickgusset


Nothing to see? They have broken electoral financial rules to gain advantage in a general election. That is against the law and undemocratic.

As I said.... I'm pretty sure that Labour were breaking the law on Thursday.......

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 09 May 16 8.20am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

As I said.... I'm pretty sure that Labour were breaking the law on Thursday.......

Have you reported it?

Elsewhere, tory crime chief investigated for fraud.

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 09 May 16 8.32am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Have you reported it?

Elsewhere, tory crime chief investigated for fraud.

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Edited by nickgusset (09 May 2016 8.21am)

Unless anything else comes out it all seeems a bit weak.

Tory central office sent activists around the country. In stead of individual MPs allowing for the costs against their own campaign assumed it was covered - it wasn't.

Shouldn't have done it but not much of a srory

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 09 May 16 8.55am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Unless anything else comes out it all seeems a bit weak.

Tory central office sent activists around the country. In stead of individual MPs allowing for the costs against their own campaign assumed it was covered - it wasn't.

Shouldn't have done it but not much of a srory

Other than spending more than is allowed by law, giving them an advantage over other parties and more than likely help them get elected.
Given that there are 24 mp's under investigation, it could be that the last election would have resulted in a hung parliament.

So no, not much of a story


Also, you'd think a party already in Government would know electoral rules!

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Other than spending more than is allowed by law, giving them an advantage over other parties and more than likely help them get elected.
Given that there are 24 mp's under investigation, it could be that the last election would have resulted in a hung parliament.

So no, not much of a story


Also, you'd think a party already in Government would know electoral rules!


The 24 MPS are constituencies where the Battle Bus visited. Once an anomaly, deliberate or otherwise has been identified then it is inevitable that the investigation would spread.

I am not excusing what happened, however I am not sure that it the grand election fraud that it is being portrayed.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 09 May 16 9.55am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch


The 24 MPS are constituencies where the Battle Bus visited. Once an anomaly, deliberate or otherwise has been identified then it is inevitable that the investigation would spread.

I am not excusing what happened, however I am not sure that it the grand election fraud that it is being portrayed.

Whether intentional or not, an advantage was gained because of the 'error' and thus could have affected the result.

 

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