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Guntrisoft Beckenham, Kent 22 Jul 04 8.10pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Who voted 'Yes' for Gaddafi?' by jcreedy Quote Lee McB at 22 Jul 2004 7:15pm I take it only registered members can vote? Would be interesting though to find out. As said before, it was either people too young, or people too greedy for money, or people with a bizarre sense of humour... Anyone can vote Webmaster - The Holmesdale Online Follow the HOL on Twitter! [Link] and Facebook [Link]
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Quote Lee McB at 22 Jul 2004 7:15pm

I take it only registered members can vote? Would be interesting though to find out. As said before, it was either people too young, or people too greedy for money, or people with a bizarre sense of humour...

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roffeyeagle Freedman Wonderland 22 Jul 04 8.11pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Who voted 'Yes' for Gaddafi?' by jcreedy Quote coolboard at 22 Jul 2004 6:54pm untill i hear a bit more info on the supposed take over i'm on the fence but i would'nt write it of . which way are you going roffey as you seem to be open to it in your last post I'm way against it coolboard, I would seriously consider boycotting going to Selhurst if this guy came. It isn't moral and it isn't football. And I'm 16, and I don't remember Locherbie but I know enough about him from recent news to know that this guy is a terrorist. Grump, so you mean that just because it's ok by Tony Blair, whose judgement is awful, then it's ok by you? Edited by roffeyeagle (22 Jul 2004 8:12pm) 'Happy being mediocre; if you've got no targets, you can't fail' - Mantra for life and Palace. Feel free to check out the Expat Eagles Facebook Group [Link] Viva la revolution!
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Quote coolboard at 22 Jul 2004 6:54pm

untill i hear a bit more info on the supposed take over i'm on the fence but i would'nt write it of . which way are you going roffey as you seem to be open to it in your last post

I'm way against it coolboard, I would seriously consider boycotting going to Selhurst if this guy came. It isn't moral and it isn't football.

And I'm 16, and I don't remember Locherbie but I know enough about him from recent news to know that this guy is a terrorist.

Grump, so you mean that just because it's ok by Tony Blair, whose judgement is awful, then it's ok by you?

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Mathers 22 Jul 04 8.21pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Who voted 'Yes' for Gaddafi?' by jcreedy It would be a nightmare if Gadaffi came!I can almost hear the chants: "You're run by a terrorist!"
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It would be a nightmare if Gadaffi came!I can almost hear the chants:
"You're run by a terrorist!"

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Beckenhameagle 'nham 22 Jul 04 8.26pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Would you actually not go anymore if gadaffi came?' by jcreedy I'd still go. As far as I would be concerned crystal palace are milking his money. No one else could convince me otherwise. As Danny Butterfield wheeled away, arms aloft in celebration of his third goal � an expression of delight and astonishment on his face � a man seated beside me in the stands turned to his young son and told him that he would remember this moment for the rest of his life. I will too.
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I'd still go. As far as I would be concerned crystal palace are milking his money. No one else could convince me otherwise.

As Danny Butterfield wheeled away, arms aloft in celebration of his third goal � an expression of delight and astonishment on his face � a man seated beside me in the stands turned to his young son and told him that he would remember this moment for the rest of his life. I will too.

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saxoneagle Bromley 22 Jul 04 8.27pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Who voted 'Yes' for Gaddafi?' by jcreedy Quote Mathers at 22 Jul 2004 8:21pm It would be a nightmare if Gadaffi came!I can almost hear the chants: "You're run by a terrorist!" We'll win, or we'll bomb your ground
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Quote Mathers at 22 Jul 2004 8:21pm

It would be a nightmare if Gadaffi came!I can almost hear the chants:
"You're run by a terrorist!"

We'll win, or we'll bomb your ground

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Blue'n'red Field of Chels (Orpington) 22 Jul 04 8.35pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Who voted 'Yes' for Gaddafi?' by jcreedy I didn't actually vote ... but I thought that perhaps ... just perhaps it could work ... he is rich (the next ambrovich perhaps) and it could mean international recognition for Palace. But I am also aware of the blood money thing! PS Before you all bite my head off, notice the operative word here is perhaps Edited by Blue'n'red (22 Jul 2004 8:43pm) They say hard work never hurt anyone ... but why take a chance?
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I didn't actually vote ... but I thought that perhaps ... just perhaps it could work ... he is rich (the next ambrovich perhaps) and it could mean international recognition for Palace. But I am also aware of the blood money thing!

PS Before you all bite my head off, notice the operative word here is perhaps

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SpikeyMatt Fishing for condiments 22 Jul 04 8.40pm
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I voted NO.

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The Artist Croydon 22 Jul 04 8.46pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Would you actually not go anymore if gadaffi came?' by jcreedy At the End of the Day if Gadafi Did buy Palace and all of a sudden we had really big stars playing for us if some of the Palace fans did stay away you would have others to take their place look at Liverpool and Man Utd most of their so called fan's don't even live in the cities where they are. I can not see it happening though. Jordan should milk this for all his worth and you never know we might get someone with millions buy us up. The Artist/Adrian
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At the End of the Day if Gadafi Did buy Palace and all of a sudden we had really big stars playing for us if some of the Palace fans did stay away you would have others to take their place look at Liverpool and Man Utd most of their
so called fan's don't even live in the cities where they are.

I can not see it happening though.
Jordan should milk this for all his worth
and you never know we might get someone with millions buy us up.

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Selhurst_Gazza Upper Tier 22 Jul 04 8.48pm
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Yeah but the fans that would take our places would not be real palace fans like us.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 22 Jul 04 8.52pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Who voted 'Yes' for Gaddafi?' by jcreedy I did not vote because it was a non starter from months ago when it was first mentioned and besides SJ has always said he would NOT put the club to the "wolves" and that he would ONLY sell to someone that was GOOD for the club. I am old and DO remember the "Old Days of Gaddafi in fact I was in the Royal Marines stationed in Malta when he tried to take over the island by sending in troops disguised as tourists and their weapons were on another plane that came in close behind. He was thwarted and his troops were sent packing leaving the weapons behind in our care. He had been called in by the then Prime Minister of Malta, Mr Mintoff. AS history shows we pulled out of Malta shortly afterwards and left Mr Mintoff to get voted out in the following local elections which then stopped Lybians going to the Island on holiday in mass. We also had to go to Lybia on several occasions to show the flag and keep Gaddafi quiet........BUT times HAVE changed and so do people, and he has mellowed quite a lot from the old days. He is trying to get his country back in with the rest of the western world even though he has done or ordered some horrific things in his time. It is better to have him on our side than on the side of evil that is in the world at the present time. He just dare not be known as the "Baddy" anymore. If you look back in OUR history WE HAVE DONE some horrific things and as late as the WW2 but we like to keep that quiet. Take it from me IF he were to buy a stake in the club, and I say IF HE WERE it might not be as bad as some of you think....it would not be the end of the world you know........BUT AS I SAID IT JUST AINT GONNA HAPPEN... NO WAY!!!!!!! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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I did not vote because it was a non starter from months ago when it was first mentioned and besides SJ has always said he would NOT put the club to the "wolves" and that he would ONLY sell to someone that was GOOD for the club.

I am old and DO remember the "Old Days of Gaddafi in fact I was in the Royal Marines stationed in Malta when he tried to take over the island by sending in troops disguised as tourists and their weapons were on another plane that came in close behind. He was thwarted and his troops were sent packing leaving the weapons behind in our care. He had been called in by the then Prime Minister of Malta, Mr Mintoff. AS history shows we pulled out of Malta shortly afterwards and left Mr Mintoff to get voted out in the following local elections which then stopped Lybians going to the Island on holiday in mass.
We also had to go to Lybia on several occasions to show the flag and keep Gaddafi quiet........BUT times HAVE changed and so do people, and he has mellowed quite a lot from the old days. He is trying to get his country back in with the rest of the western world even though he has done or ordered some horrific things in his time. It is better to have him on our side than on the side of evil that is in the world at the present time. He just dare not be known as the "Baddy" anymore. If you look back in OUR history WE HAVE DONE some horrific things and as late as the WW2 but we like to keep that quiet.

Take it from me IF he were to buy a stake in the club, and I say IF HE WERE it might not be as bad as some of you think....it would not be the end of the world you know........BUT AS I SAID IT JUST AINT GONNA HAPPEN... NO WAY!!!!!!!

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Ouzo Dan 22 Jul 04 8.54pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Who voted 'Yes' for Gaddafi?' by jcreedy I voted yes. I will try my upmost hardest to keep away from the political aspect of this but I do need to support my argument where I can. To be quite honest its not necessarily Gaddafi who would buy the club its a Libyan company that his family have a controlling share in, To call it blood money is obscene at best, The main reason that Muammar is linked to this is through the surname, this business venture may not have anything to do with either him or his son (as the following link confirms) [Link] With Respect to Pan Am Flight 103 there are many arguments and counter arguments in relation to what really happened and many now believe that it wasnt infact Libya at fault but Iran. see below... ''A TV program which aired on Sunday the 4th of June 2000 in the United States revealed details about the alleged involvement of the Iranian government in the Lockerbie disaster. The CBS current affairs program 60 minutes carried a report about an Iranian intelligence service defector who says that the bombing of a Pan Am aircraft over Scotland was devised by Iran to take revenge on the United States after U.S. Navy vessel accidentally shot down an Iranian Airbus in July 1988, killing 290. The defector, Ahmad Behbahani, says he has documents in his possession that prove that his Islamic fundamentalist country and not Libya was behind the bombing. Before the airing of this programme, it was already being alleged that Iran contracted out the Pan Am bombing to a financially strapped Syrian-based Palestinian group, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC). German police raids on PFLP-GC hide-outs in 1988 and 1989 yielded information the group was targeting a U.S.-bound flight from Frankfurt and turned up bombs that appeared to match the Lockerbie bomb. "It's very difficult to believe there were two separate operations targeting the same flight,'' said Cannistraro, who believes the PFLP-GC handed off the bombing to Libya after the raids compromised its operation.'' [Link] (you will need to go to the what if part of the webpage) Apologies for the poor link but on short notice that is what I found on the subject. Gaddafi did announce that Libya was responsible for the Pan Am bombing but you have to realise he wanted Libya to come out of the International wilderness so by making an apology he got his wish. Although the above is purely speculation & Gaddafi doesnt get off the hook as he has supported terrorism directly through the IRA & other terrorist means he was building a stockpile of wmd's, Yes there is Yvonne Fletcher but Nations & the respective leaders all love each other until the money runs dry then we seek regime change remember Britain & her allies used to finance Saddam Hussain & Osama Bin Laden we stopped supporting the above and the rest is history. Freedom fighters / Terrorists there all the same when you grow up with blood shed around you everyday compassion is something just not needed. [Link] But again I come to the point your not going to have Gaddafi parading down the holmesdale as I believe he has nothing to do with what is simply a business venture. All I can see from this is a secure future for Crystal Palace football club, This is something that has nearly been taken away from us on more than one occasion & like some on here say they would rather palace in admin again well im sorry I disagree those were very dark times indeed & I hope I will never see such a bad time for this football club again in my life time. At the end of the day if this all comes to fruition we have a very wealthy company pumping an incredible amount of money into this club & if the new owners are patient and the money managed correctly then this would be a great move for Crystal Palace football club. We have all sweat blood & tears long enough for Palace, I believe there is not one Palace fan out there who wouldnt do it all again as I believe we love this roller coaster, We all dream of success so why not take it instead of shunning it away, afterall this would only be another twist & turn in the ride that is Palace. Edited by Ouzo Dan (22 Jul 2004 9:02pm) Sex Panther 60% of the time it works every time
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Ouzo Dan 22 Jul 04 8.54pm

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I voted yes.

I will try my upmost hardest to keep away from the political aspect of this but I do need to support my argument where I can.

To be quite honest its not necessarily Gaddafi who would buy the club its a Libyan company that his family have a controlling share in, To call it blood money is obscene at best, The main reason that Muammar is linked to this is through the surname, this business venture may not have anything to do with either him or his son (as the following link confirms)

[Link]

With Respect to Pan Am Flight 103 there are many arguments and counter arguments in relation to what really happened and many now believe that it wasnt infact Libya at fault but Iran. see below...

''A TV program which aired on Sunday the 4th of June 2000 in the United States revealed details about the alleged involvement of the Iranian government in the Lockerbie disaster. The CBS current affairs program 60 minutes carried a report about an Iranian intelligence service defector who says that the bombing of a Pan Am aircraft over Scotland was devised by Iran to take revenge on the United States after U.S. Navy vessel accidentally shot down an Iranian Airbus in July 1988, killing 290.

The defector, Ahmad Behbahani, says he has documents in his possession that prove that his Islamic fundamentalist country and not Libya was behind the bombing.

Before the airing of this programme, it was already being alleged that Iran contracted out the Pan Am bombing to a financially strapped Syrian-based Palestinian group, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC).

German police raids on PFLP-GC hide-outs in 1988 and 1989 yielded information the group was targeting a U.S.-bound flight from Frankfurt and turned up bombs that appeared to match the Lockerbie bomb.

"It's very difficult to believe there were two separate operations targeting the same flight,'' said Cannistraro, who believes the PFLP-GC handed off the bombing to Libya after the raids compromised its operation.''

[Link]
(you will need to go to the what if part of the webpage)
Apologies for the poor link but on short notice that is what I found on the subject.

Gaddafi did announce that Libya was responsible for the Pan Am bombing but you have to realise he wanted Libya to come out of the International wilderness so by making an apology he got his wish.
Although the above is purely speculation & Gaddafi doesnt get off the hook as he has supported terrorism directly through the IRA & other terrorist means he was building a stockpile of wmd's, Yes there is Yvonne Fletcher but Nations & the respective leaders all love each other until the money runs dry then we seek regime change remember Britain & her allies used to finance Saddam Hussain & Osama Bin Laden we stopped supporting the above and the rest is history.

Freedom fighters / Terrorists there all the same when you grow up with blood shed around you everyday compassion is something just not needed.

[Link]

But again I come to the point your not going to have Gaddafi parading down the holmesdale as I believe he has nothing to do with what is simply a business venture.
All I can see from this is a secure future for Crystal Palace football club, This is something that has nearly been taken away from us on more than one occasion & like some on here say they would rather palace in admin again well im sorry I disagree those were very dark times indeed & I hope I will never see such a bad time for this football club again in my life time.

At the end of the day if this all comes to fruition we have a very wealthy company pumping an incredible amount of money into this club & if the new owners are patient and the money managed correctly then this would be a great move for Crystal Palace football club.

We have all sweat blood & tears long enough for Palace, I believe there is not one Palace fan out there who wouldnt do it all again as I believe we love this roller coaster, We all dream of success so why not take it instead of shunning it away, afterall this would only be another twist & turn in the ride that is Palace.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (22 Jul 2004 9:02pm)

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Selhurst_Gazza Upper Tier 22 Jul 04 8.54pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Who voted 'Yes' for Gaddafi?' by jcreedy The people that voted yes are forgetting that we are crystal palace. The club where we have always stuck together and been through alot together including all the staff and the players. If this w@nker took over all that would belost. We would be a business there to make money for a gang of terrorists. I myself being 16 aswell would lose my pride. We have now got some respect off of people cos of what we have become. We dont want to lose this now! We have got something special. This guy cannot take over. And to be quite honest, anyone who thinks that he should needs to look at it again cos it is not good. It would be terrible! COME ON YOU EAGLES
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The people that voted yes are forgetting that we are crystal palace. The club where we have always stuck together and been through alot together including all the staff and the players. If this w@nker took over all that would belost. We would be a business there to make money for a gang of terrorists. I myself being 16 aswell would lose my pride. We have now got some respect off of people cos of what we have become. We dont want to lose this now! We have got something special. This guy cannot take over. And to be quite honest, anyone who thinks that he should needs to look at it again cos it is not good. It would be terrible!

COME ON YOU EAGLES

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