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View tome's Profile tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 24 Mar 05 10.44pm Send a Private Message to tome Add tome as a friend

Eh, this sounds just a little unlikely, but fair play. Although that said, it may come up in generalised structures of exlusion that surround the way in which you interact with them.

 


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In my old job I put a complaint in about a colleague who was west Indian, British though. In his defence he first tried to say that I fancied him and tried to chat him up and because he spurned my advances I put in the complaint as revenge. When that didn't work he changed his story to say I put in my complaint because he was black, he knew what that civil service thought about racial complaints and he knew I could not do a thing about it except say that it was complete crap.

His counter claims about me being racsist disguised the fact that he phoned me up and threatned to kick the sh*t out of me and wreck my car. And the b****** got away with it too. I will also add that this guy was a very nasty piece of work who had previously been complained about for various things. Prior to the problem we got on very well, so it goes to show.

So I'm not sure what your point is because what you say is nothing to do with immigration at all it is something that everyone can face from anyone no matter who they are.

Edited by A_JsShorts (24 Mar 2005 10:51pm)

 

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View tome's Profile tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 24 Mar 05 10.49pm Send a Private Message to tome Add tome as a friend

Quote Moose at 24 Mar 2005 10:42pm

Quote tome at 24 Mar 2005 9:43pm

Oh dear, oh dear. Here we go again.

I, to be fair, have no wish to trawl through massive extensive spiels by inherently introspective and reactionist posters.

I suggest you bother to read the thread, Tome. You may be surprised that a lot of views aren't too dissimilar to your own. Have another go, and then you can get on your high horse.


I avoided naming specifics, and is this not what people do? Add their voice to the thread even if someone's already said what they did?

 


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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 24 Mar 05 11.00pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Brits who migrate to Oz ADD something to the country and WORK. Plenty of foreigners come to England and are willing to respect our laws and traditions, however PLENTY do not. Gangs of Kosovans are on the rampage in the Kent coastal towns. Look at the way crime-ridden ghettos have been created in parts of our country. I work in Streatham/Brixton area and it is an utter disgrace. I used to play football with a Brixton copper and he had to put up with so much s*** and constantly being accused of being racist. I'm all for skilled workers coming to this country but for far too long, we've let in w***ers who have abused the system. To be fair, the main problem in this country is the left-wing white people. Pack them off to Russia and Cuba I say!

 

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View A_JsShorts's Profile A_JsShorts 24 Mar 05 11.18pm Send a Private Message to A_JsShorts Add A_JsShorts as a friend

Penge you are correct on some level, Gun and drug crime which usually go hand in hand is often commited by west indian males. This crime is something that the Governemnt is fighting to control and in my opinion are loosing. By drug crime I do mean crack cocain and not small time cannabis dealing. Crack cocain dealers are sometimes also pimps, this then leads to the sex work.

Now the authorities in Jamaica have now made it near on impossible for young Jamaican males to get visa's to come to Britain and ones that do are strip searched on arrival (I think) It's awful that all young men travelling from the west indies have been tarred with the same brush and have to go through very humiliating things in the customs room at Heathrow. But unfortunatly its a well known fact that west indian men but usually women bring drugs into this country for money to support there families (through desperation) and also travel on false documents.

I'm not too sure what my point is as such, but I suppose with Immigration people always first think of people from Islamic countries or Kosovo that cause problems and its not it can be people travelling from every where.

 

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View moaner's Profile moaner Flag Westerham 24 Mar 05 11.20pm Send a Private Message to moaner Add moaner as a friend

Bring back National Army Service for all.

 


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Quote moaner at 24 Mar 2005 11:20pm

Bring back National Army Service for all.

I think the boat's left that harbour now mate...

 


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Quote A_JsShorts at 24 Mar 2005 11:18pm

Penge you are correct on some level, Gun and drug crime which usually go hand in hand is often commited by west indian males. This crime is something that the Governemnt is fighting to control and in my opinion are loosing. By drug crime I do mean crack cocain and not small time cannabis dealing. Crack cocain dealers are sometimes also pimps, this then leads to the sex work.

Now the authorities in Jamaica have now made it near on impossible for young Jamaican males to get visa's to come to Britain and ones that do are strip searched on arrival (I think) It's awful that all young men travelling from the west indies have been tarred with the same brush and have to go through very humiliating things in the customs room at Heathrow. But unfortunatly its a well known fact that west indian men but usually women bring drugs into this country for money to support there families (through desperation) and also travel on false documents.

I'm not too sure what my point is as such, but I suppose with Immigration people always first think of people from Islamic countries or Kosovo that cause problems and its not it can be people travelling from every where.

AJs, I am shocked. Telling me you're a cheap date, then agreeing with me!

Edited by Penge Eagle (24 Mar 2005 11:38pm)

 

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Penge, I'm sure you are excited at the prospect of me shifting to the right but i'm really not!! What we are agreeing on is not an opinion its fact!! all the same it's nice not to argue for once

 

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Quote Kinloch94 at 24 Mar 2005 11:26pm

Quote moaner at 24 Mar 2005 11:20pm

Bring back National Army Service for all.

I think the boat's left that harbour now mate...

Many countries throughout Europe and the rest of the world have National Service. This is normally for 18-year-olds and lasts between 1 and 3 years. There is usually an option between the military or a from of community service. Define what age this is for, for how long, whether it is for men only or both sexes and what options would be available.
We accept the need for national service in wartime and this is just an extension of this. Conscription during peacetime would mean that the country was prepared for emergencies when they happened, rather than having to prepare after the fact.
National service engenders valuable character traits. Young people are taught respect for authority, self-discipline, teamwork and leadership skills. National service also teaches skills which means that when people leave they will be more qualified for the job market. People could train as engineers, IT specialists, drivers, chefs etc. In the long-run this will reduce unemployment and help the economy. National service helps to promote patriotism and a sense of nationhood. National pride is at an all-time low in Britain at the moment and this gives us the chance to rally around a shared cause, no matter what race or culture you come from.
The individual has a duty to put something back into society and national service allows this. Whether it be through protecting the country or helping with social or environmental projects, this encourages the idea of working as a community instead of merely for selfish ends. Indeed this conscripted group could then be sent arouns the world, removing the oppression and fear that causes immigrants to seek asylum elsewhere.
I'm not sure if this has been tried before.

 


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Quote Penge Eagle at 24 Mar 2005 11:00pm

Brits who migrate to Oz ADD something to the country and WORK. Plenty of foreigners come to England and are willing to respect our laws and traditions, however PLENTY do not. Gangs of Kosovans are on the rampage in the Kent coastal towns. Look at the way crime-ridden ghettos have been created in parts of our country. I work in Streatham/Brixton area and it is an utter disgrace. I used to play football with a Brixton copper and he had to put up with so much s*** and constantly being accused of being racist. I'm all for skilled workers coming to this country but for far too long, we've let in w***ers who have abused the system. To be fair, the main problem in this country is the left-wing white people. Pack them off to Russia and Cuba I say!

lol, coney hall has turned into the ghetto. scum everywhere and riots at the shops. fun fun fun


 



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Quote Hayes Eagle at 25 Mar 2005 12:00am

Quote Penge Eagle at 24 Mar 2005 11:00pm

Brits who migrate to Oz ADD something to the country and WORK. Plenty of foreigners come to England and are willing to respect our laws and traditions, however PLENTY do not. Gangs of Kosovans are on the rampage in the Kent coastal towns. Look at the way crime-ridden ghettos have been created in parts of our country. I work in Streatham/Brixton area and it is an utter disgrace. I used to play football with a Brixton copper and he had to put up with so much s*** and constantly being accused of being racist. I'm all for skilled workers coming to this country but for far too long, we've let in w***ers who have abused the system. To be fair, the main problem in this country is the left-wing white people. Pack them off to Russia and Cuba I say!

lol, coney hall has turned into the ghetto. scum everywhere and riots at the shops. fun fun fun


Yeah, especially outside Hayes station, little scumbags!

 

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