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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 09 Aug 23 4.11pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Can't believe people are debating this still, it's transcended past George Floyd and into something more reflective of racism in football. It takes seconds. If you don't like it, stay on the concourse or in the bar until the game kicks off and you'll never see it.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Aug 23 5.02pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

How many players that supported taking the knee are now taking the Saudi money?

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Aug 23 5.28pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

How many players that supported taking the knee are now taking the Saudi money?

Agreed & how many other countries in the world also do it, in solidarity of course.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 09 Aug 23 5.38pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

How many players that supported taking the knee are now taking the Saudi money?

I made a similar point on the previous page, but your rhetorical question is spot on.

Those supporting the gesture or saying "is it really such a big deal...just ignore it etc" completely miss the fact that the gesture is carried out by, and with the support of, the biggest load of hypocrites you could possibly come up with (i.e. carried out by footballers with the gushing support of commentators and pundits). None of them were prepared to make any sort of stand at either of the last two World Cups for the simple fact that to do so would have been detrimental to their playing or earning prospects. Now we have footballers proud to wear the armband and to take the knee in the safe and, let's face it, diverse and accepting environment that is England, yet unwilling to reject the filthy lucre on offer from the desert. Last week Southgate dutifully came up with a contorted and mealy-mouthed defence of Jordan Henderson's staggering volte face; basically saying that everyone else deals with the Saudis, so why shouldn't footballers? Principles? Don't make me laugh.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Aug 23 5.49pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by YT

I made a similar point on the previous page, but your rhetorical question is spot on.

Those supporting the gesture or saying "is it really such a big deal...just ignore it etc" completely miss the fact that the gesture is carried out by, and with the support of, the biggest load of hypocrites you could possibly come up with (i.e. carried out by footballers with the gushing support of commentators and pundits). None of them were prepared to make any sort of stand at either of the last two World Cups for the simple fact that to do so would have been detrimental to their playing or earning prospects. Now we have footballers proud to wear the armband and to take the knee in the safe and, let's face it, diverse and accepting environment that is England, yet unwilling to reject the filthy lucre on offer from the desert. Last week Southgate dutifully came up with a contorted and mealy-mouthed defence of Jordan Henderson's staggering volte face; basically saying that everyone else deals with the Saudis, so why shouldn't footballers? Principles? Don't make me laugh.


Boom, spot on. Nice one.

 


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View palaceexile's Profile palaceexile Flag hastings 09 Aug 23 6.03pm Send a Private Message to palaceexile Add palaceexile as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
The efficacy of the protest is irrelevant really - I just respect their right to do it.

Those 4 seconds don't have any impact on the matchday experience, except in your own head.

Berlin Olympic Stadium, 1936. England team line up before the game against Germany and all give the fascist salute on the orders of the FA.
But it's OK. It's "only 4 seconds". It "doesn't have any impact on the matchday experience." We should just "respect their right to do it."

Edited by palaceexile (09 Aug 2023 6.06pm)

 

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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 09 Aug 23 8.36pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Originally posted by palaceexile

Berlin Olympic Stadium, 1936. England team line up before the game against Germany and all give the fascist salute on the orders of the FA.
But it's OK. It's "only 4 seconds". It "doesn't have any impact on the matchday experience." We should just "respect their right to do it."

Edited by palaceexile (09 Aug 2023 6.06pm)

spot on

Edited by kingdowieonthewall (09 Aug 2023 8.39pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 09 Aug 23 9.39pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Sure all the footballers go on holidays to Dubai, all the premier league teams go to Dubai for winter camps etc... Dubai have the same laws as Qatar. They are all hypothocites and don't actually care about the kneeling as if they don't do it the loose sponsors etc... Wilf for away with it becuase he is black. As john barnes said in the video I shared earlier.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 09 Aug 23 9.39pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by palaceexile

Berlin Olympic Stadium, 1936. England team line up before the game against Germany and all give the fascist salute on the orders of the FA.
But it's OK. It's "only 4 seconds". It "doesn't have any impact on the matchday experience." We should just "respect their right to do it."

Edited by palaceexile (09 Aug 2023 6.06pm)

What were they protesting?

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Aug 23 10.43pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

What were they protesting?

The reoccupation of the Rhineland? What else were they supposed to be protesting? Should footballers in the 1930s have been politically prescient enough to know what was going to happen?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Aug 23 5.57am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I don't give a toss about cheerleaders, mascots, kids taking penalties, random boxers/athletes lapping the pitch and a whole host of other things which you will find at football matches, but I also don't consider those things to be 'rammed down my throat' because they take place in the same venue I'm in.

If it's not for you, engage your attention in something else for a matter of seconds and it will all be over - it's not even close to accurate to suggest a silent protest which occupies about 10 seconds, before the game even starts, is being 'rammed down your throat' and to the detriment of people's enjoyment of the match.

If you oppose the protest, at least own your reasons and stop pretending it's anything to do with the matchday experience.

The crystals, and the half time challenge. Nope you’ve lost it.

 

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