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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 24 Nov 20 10.33am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

Batshuayi v Benteke

1 Batshuayi won't or can't head the ball
Benteke can and will

2 Batshuayi can't hold the ball up
Benteke can and does , which helps other players
get into the game

3 Batshuayi won't help out the defence
Benteke will and does

4 Batshuayi can't score
Benteke also can't score goals

As Taylors Lovechild says Batshuayi need the ball played into the box . Have we not been saying that in the case of Benteke .

Have a look at glaring opportunities squandered by both players and one cannot blame the lack of chances.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Nov 20 10.38am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

So he is good enough to be selected for international duty and gets starts and appearances off the bench for one of the world's best national sides but not good enough for us?

Yes.

I reckon I'd be worth the occasional sub appearance for Belgium playing up front against some of the int'l opponents they have faced and with De Bruyne, Mertens, Lukaku, Hazard, Witsel, Tielemans etc etc behind me.

Batshuayi looks half ar$ed at best for most of this season and yesteday was his worst performance, often not even paying attention when the ball was played into his feet, that happened on numerous occasions.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 24 Nov 20 10.40am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Yes.

I reckon I'd be worth the occasional sub appearance for Belgium playing up front against some of the int'l opponents they have faced and with De Bruyne, Mertens, Lukaku, Hazard, Witsel, Tielemans etc etc behind me.

Batshuayi looks half ar$ed at best for most of this season and yesteday was his worst performance, often not even paying attention when the ball was played into his feet, that happened on numerous occasions.

..hence Cheksea not wanting his services.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 24 Nov 20 11.02am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

So he is good enough to be selected for international duty and gets starts and appearances off the bench for one of the world's best national sides but not good enough for us?

Sorloth is s***-hot for Norway, and plays in the Champions League

 

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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 24 Nov 20 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

He's been disappointing so far. I guess we were all hoping that he would chip in with a few goals - so far they have all been offside.

My memory of him when he was on loan to us last time was that he was a bit of a showboater and wasn't the player you needed when you had your backs to the wall.

However, I had hoped for a few goals from him to complement ones from Ayew and Wilf, which would see us in good stead.So far only Wilf has delivered.

 

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View crystal-purley's Profile crystal-purley Flag Purley 24 Nov 20 12.45pm Send a Private Message to crystal-purley Add crystal-purley as a friend

I still believe as others have said that Wilf should at least start on the right and Andros on the left. Until that happens it is going to be very difficult to give the right service to whoever plays in the centre.
Ayew/Batshuayi/Benteke my preferred CF would be Ayew who at least tries to put himself in the positions and although Benteke does that too plus other stuff Ayew scores occasionally. Batshuayi just doesn't fit in although he did when Loftus-Cheek played as then the opposition are back-pedalling and there is more space.

 


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View A89M's Profile A89M Flag Streatham 24 Nov 20 1.14pm Send a Private Message to A89M Add A89M as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

..hence Cheksea not wanting his services.

Are you saying we should not loan/buy chelsea rejects? Chelsea's squad of players are far superior to ours, he's just not as good as those players but he's certainly good enough for us.

He just doesn't suit our play, he plays of the last defenders shoulder and this requires balls played in behind defences (Jairo's ball against Brighton as an example) we have no one like this at the moment or at least no one who can do it consistently. Also, we're a sit back and counter team and he's got to hold the ball up and unfortunately this isn't one of his strong points.

 

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View gbox82's Profile gbox82 Flag Meols, Wirral 24 Nov 20 1.19pm Send a Private Message to gbox82 Add gbox82 as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

Batshuayi v Benteke

1 Batshuayi won't or can't head the ball
Benteke can and will

2 Batshuayi can't hold the ball up
Benteke can and does , which helps other players
get into the game

3 Batshuayi won't help out the defence
Benteke will and does

4 Batshuayi can't score
Benteke also can't score goals

As Taylors Lovechild says Batshuayi need the ball played into the box . Have we not been saying that in the case of Benteke .

Spot on. I think we are a better team with tekkers in it (even if he's not the player he once was)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Nov 20 1.26pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by gbox82

Spot on. I think we are a better team with tekkers in it (even if he's not the player he once was)

I believe a target man in the mould of Giroud or Antonio would suit our team.

 

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View BelfastEagle's Profile BelfastEagle Flag 24 Nov 20 1.27pm Send a Private Message to BelfastEagle Add BelfastEagle as a friend

Batshuayi has a remarkable scoring record for Belgium. Is he yet another player who does not fit our rigid style of play ? If so and looking at all the others who didn’t fit either .....would anybody score regularly with our style of play ? Do we just have to face up to the fact that our manager is setting up from the back with any forwards getting little service and trying to live off the odd scrap ?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Nov 20 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by BelfastEagle

Batshuayi has a remarkable scoring record for Belgium. Is he yet another player who does not fit our rigid style of play ? If so and looking at all the others who didn’t fit either .....would anybody score regularly with our style of play ? Do we just have to face up to the fact that our manager is setting up from the back with any forwards getting little service and trying to live off the odd scrap ?

These are some of the nations he has scored against whilst playing for Belgium :
Cyprus,Hungary,Costa Rica,Tunisia,Bosnia-Herzegovina,Iceland,San Marino,Kazakhstan.
I believe he has scored against Cyprus and Iceland twice.

Edited by Willo (24 Nov 2020 1.41pm)

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Nov 20 1.52pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Starting to think that whatever striker we bring him, we'll find a way to ruin him.

 


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