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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 20 9.26am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

True, but to quote rugby again, the team awarded the kick are perfectly at liberty to take the ball back as far as they like from the spot where it was awarded. This happens when a kick is awarded out near the touchline and the penalty taker decides to go for goal and wants to improve his angle.

Out of interest, is that allowed in football?

I quote from IFAB Laws of the game 2020/21:

"All free kicks are taken from the place where the offence occurred, except:

1. indirect free kicks to the attacking team for an offence inside the opponents’ goal area are taken from the nearest point on the goal area line which runs parallel to the goal line

2. free kicks to the defending team in their goal area may be taken from anywhere in that area

3. free kicks for offences involving a player entering, re-entering or leaving the field of play without permission are taken from the position of the ball when play was stopped. However, if a player commits an offence off the field of play, play is restarted with a free kick taken on the boundary line nearest to where the offence occurred; for direct free kick offences a penalty kick is awarded if this is within the offender’s penalty area

4. where the Law designates another position (see Laws 3, 11, 12)"


Edited by Willo (25 Dec 2020 9.29am)

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 25 Dec 20 9.59am Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I quote from IFAB Laws of the game 2020/21:

"All free kicks are taken from the place where the offence occurred, except:

Interesting. So the non-offending team has no right to take the kick from behind where it was awarded. Thanks.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 20 10.07am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

Interesting. So the non-offending team has no right to take the kick from behind where it was awarded. Thanks.

There are exceptions as I have quoted where one can take a free kick from a different position to where the offence occurred, however in the situation whereby if one is awarded a free kick around the edge of the area one cannot take it 10 yards further back, for example.

"Time wasting" has evolved into "Game management" !!

Edited by Willo (25 Dec 2020 10.11am)

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 25 Dec 20 10.15am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Why not add a set amount of time for substitutions and have an independent timekeeper? Refs just seem to add on an arbitrary 3 minutes in most games.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 20 10.29am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Why not add a set amount of time for substitutions and have an independent timekeeper? Refs just seem to add on an arbitrary 3 minutes in most games.

In bygone days there was a referee and a 'Linesman' on each side of the pitch.Nowadays the latter are referred to as "Assistants".
Now we have those 3 officials, in addition to a 4th official and more recently a VAR.
There had been discussion a while ago of having 2 referees, 1 in each half but nothing progressed on this front!
Perhaps in the not too distant future there will be more officials than players!! Furthermore there will still be controversy!


Edited by Willo (25 Dec 2020 10.31am)

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 25 Dec 20 10.50am Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

In bygone days there was a referee and a 'Linesman' on each side of the pitch.Nowadays the latter are referred to as "Assistants".
Now we have those 3 officials, in addition to a 4th official and more recently a VAR.
There had been discussion a while ago of having 2 referees, 1 in each half but nothing progressed on this front!
Perhaps in the not too distant future there will be more officials than players!! Furthermore there will still be controversy!


Edited by Willo (25 Dec 2020 10.31am)

Not exactly a recipe for consistency!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 25 Dec 20 10.51am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

In bygone days there was a referee and a 'Linesman' on each side of the pitch.Nowadays the latter are referred to as "Assistants".
Now we have those 3 officials, in addition to a 4th official and more recently a VAR.
There had been discussion a while ago of having 2 referees, 1 in each half but nothing progressed on this front!
Perhaps in the not too distant future there will be more officials than players!! Furthermore there will still be controversy!


Edited by Willo (25 Dec 2020 10.31am)

Would have thought consistency would be a real problem with two referees! It’s bad enough with one.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 20 11.13am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Would have thought consistency would be a real problem with two referees! It’s bad enough with one.

Referees have to make a plethora of subjective decisions on nuanced incidents and managers never call for "Consistency" when decisions go in their favour.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 25 Dec 20 11.21am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Referees have to make a plethora of subjective decisions on nuanced incidents and managers never call for "Consistency" when decisions go in their favour.

True. Perhaps the refs could swap halves every 15 minutes to minimise accusations of bias.

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 25 Dec 20 11.36am Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Not time for lunch yet, so here's another bugbear of mine: substitutions during added-on time. I can't think of another such blatant example of gamesmanship. Yes, once in a blue moon a team might be significantly disadvantaged by not being able to bring on a replacement for a genuinely injured player. But blue moons occur very rarely indeed.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 25 Dec 20 12.56pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Willo


Perhaps in the not too distant future there will be more officials than players!! Furthermore there will still be controversy!


all the controversy can often be the best part of the entertainment. Let it continue.

but a fella deliberately bouncing a ball off an opposition player to get a nice slowly-taken free throw-in ? And then repeating the trick again.... its killing the game.

i recall Ryan Giggs at Selhurst having a 3 minute sincere 'conversation' with the ref about some trivial football rule.....and of course ManUre were leading at the time. t0sser.

Do you think Giggs would have been so interested in the finer points of refereeing if ManUre had been chasing the game ? a snowballs chance in hell.

All the time-wasting has now got so bad that i 'Sky-Thai' it. ie beat the boredom by watching the game 3 or 4 minutes out of sync on my Sky box and fast forward through all the boring stuff (including when they are taking the knee, passing the ball from defender to defender to keeper, chatting with the ref ). When my sky box catches up with real-time, i pause it and make a cup of tea.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (25 Dec 2020 1.15pm)

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 25 Dec 20 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

all the controversy can often be the best part of the entertainment. Let it continue.

but a fella deliberately bouncing a ball off an opposition player to get a nice slowly-taken free throw-in ? And then repeating the trick again.... its killing the game.

i recall Ryan Giggs at Selhurst having a 3 minute sincere 'conversation' with the ref about some trivial football rule.....and of course ManUre were leading at the time. t0sser

Edited by PalazioVecchio (25 Dec 2020 12.59pm)

Probably enquiring if his wife was worth a tumble.

 

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