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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 18 Jan 21 1.51pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

This game was proof that a team full of "elderly statesmen" is not enough to keep us in PL. And Ward, MacArthur, Cahill, McCarty, Ayew is not getting younger. Please, please start introducing some younger players to the team - this dross will not carry us much longer.
Still, if we can win 4 of the last 19 games we ought to stay up. but my dearest these Hodgson tactics make you little to be proud of.
And as someone pointed out -most of the City goals were due to simple mistakes on our part. What was Townsend thinking when he just let Gundogan in for the second, MacArthurs cross that was picked up for the first, and Luka gave away a corner after his own passing mistake? Not to mention McCarty and that stupid push for the 4th?

Spot on. We were our own undoing yesterday. First goal Ward made a mistake then corrected it for a corner, Townsend was trying to trap a high ball just outside the box and made a hash for 2nd, 3rd lost possession in our own third after trying to play out from defence resulting in corner, 4th poor tackle right on box for a dangerous free kick. These were the errors shown just on the highlights of the goals. Unfortunately you cannot get away with these type of defensive errors for 90 mins against a quality attacking team. Some of these may of been attributable to age of the squad or just basic technique, perhaps a bit of both.

Edited by Booted Eagle (18 Jan 2021 1.54pm)

 


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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 18 Jan 21 2.33pm Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

What bothers me is City could have played without a keeper and would still have won

 

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View viveasheagle's Profile viveasheagle Flag perth 18 Jan 21 2.36pm Send a Private Message to viveasheagle Add viveasheagle as a friend

Forget this game - everything was against us and we were 20-1 to win this game before the kick off. Why because Man C were bang in form are use to playing 2 games a week and we had less rest and are not use to playing 2 games in a week. We have rested Zaha Benteke and Kayoute and will be ready for the winnable games we have coming up. It would have been foolish to run ourselves into the ground get players suspended / injured in a game even if we were at our best we would likely lose. Next time we play them at home we might they may have played away in Europe in the week and we have a few extra days to prepare and we will give them a game.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 18 Jan 21 2.52pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Daddyorc

Half way through the fixtures:

"Big 6 clubs": Lost 3 badly (Liverpool, MC, Chelsea), tied 2 (Arsenal, Spurs), won 1 (MU)

Next Level (5): Lost 2 (Everton, Wolves), tied 2 (Leicester, West Ham), Won 1 (Southampton)

The rest (8 ): Won 4 (Leeds, West Brom, Fulham, Sheffield United), tied 1 (Brighton), Lost 3 (Burnley, Aston Villa, Newcastle)

What this shows is we took most of our points (13 of a possible 24) from the bottom 8, which is good. Those are the teams we have to beat to survive. The next level teams we did okay against (5 of 15). The top level we were okay (5 of 18 ).

We probably need about 12-14 more points to survive. Of course if we get another 23 we would likely finish around 12-14 place.

Edited by Daddyorc (18 Jan 2021 12.56pm)

I know we’ll get enough points against teams down our end, I just don’t like to see us so badly outclassed and un-interested against sides that we’ve blooded the nose of in the past. I want to see us competitive in every game, okay we’ll still lose our fair share, but we look awful sometimes now and after 8 years it feels like we should be so much better and if we carry on the way we’re going the lack of attacking play, goals and with more teams outclassing us its going to catch up with us

Edited by monkey (18 Jan 2021 2.58pm)

 


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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 18 Jan 21 3.01pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by viveasheagle

Forget this game - everything was against us and we were 20-1 to win this game before the kick off. Why because Man C were bang in form are use to playing 2 games a week and we had less rest and are not use to playing 2 games in a week. We have rested Zaha Benteke and Kayoute and will be ready for the winnable games we have coming up. It would have been foolish to run ourselves into the ground get players suspended / injured in a game even if we were at our best we would likely lose. Next time we play them at home we might they may have played away in Europe in the week and we have a few extra days to prepare and we will give them a game.

I want to forget the game but it is difficult to understand how all players including subs performed so badly when even WBA held them 1-1 at the Etihad. Their passing of the ball last night was some of the worst I have ever seen you would think for the wages they earn they would at least try to make a game of it even if the odds were stacked against them. They all should donate their salaries for last night to the NHS!

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 18 Jan 21 3.07pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by kev64

We had Tekkers and Batts 2 Belgium internationals although not very good ones. Jimmy Mac started again why not JR and give him a break. Roy threw in the towel before leaving London, that’s the issue. If we only want to complete in the games he think we may win then what’s the point ???

Sorry they are all highly paid professionals and should at least perform come what may! as for Tekkers and Batts they are both players who have I'm afraid not achieved the PL standards for strikers for sometime now and Tekkers is only here because Liverpool did not want him and likewise Chelsea do not want Batts.

 

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View Elphers40's Profile Elphers40 Flag Northants 18 Jan 21 5.41pm Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

I totally get the points being made around top teams being generally beyond our reach. Also that we should scratch together enough points this season to survive.....just.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NEGATIVE WAY WE PLAY!

It’s dour to watch and I think the dogged insistence on repeatedly doing the same things (regardless of them being totally ineffective) is Roy main failure. It’s his stubborn refusal to alter to a clearly failing game plan that frustrates me.

I don’t mind losing (let’s face it we all got used to it over the years) but we’ve got to show something, some intent, some purpose in defeat.
Going into these games hoping to keep the goals against down and viewing a 1-0 defeat as the some sort of comfort/ objective- tells us everything we need to know.

Roy is an absolute gentleman and I am grateful for what he has done for the club, but his skills would be better deployed in some other capacity at the club - preferably supporting a new manager with a more positive approach.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Jan 21 5.46pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

At the end of the day, the game went as I had imagined with us being on the back foot for the entirety and creating nothing at all.We had 2 shots and 0 on target.

I predicted it was going to be a "Hard watch" and at one stage I turned to 'Millionaire' in disgust at what I was witnessing before my very eyes. Gave 'Dancing on ice' a wide berth!

Edited by Willo (18 Jan 2021 5.47pm)

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 18 Jan 21 6.33pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Elphers40

I totally get the points being made around top teams being generally beyond our reach. Also that we should scratch together enough points this season to survive.....just.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NEGATIVE WAY WE PLAY!

It’s dour to watch and I think the dogged insistence on repeatedly doing the same things (regardless of them being totally ineffective) is Roy main failure. It’s his stubborn refusal to alter to a clearly failing game plan that frustrates me.

I don’t mind losing (let’s face it we all got used to it over the years) but we’ve got to show something, some intent, some purpose in defeat.
Going into these games hoping to keep the goals against down and viewing a 1-0 defeat as the some sort of comfort/ objective- tells us everything we need to know.

Roy is an absolute gentleman and I am grateful for what he has done for the club, but his skills would be better deployed in some other capacity at the club - preferably supporting a new manager with a more positive approach.

Exactly this.
We all know we’re going to struggle against the top sides sometimes, but these days it feels like Roy’s negativity has the effect on the team of throwing the towel in now before we even start. I too love Roy, he’s done us proud, but it’s too one dimensional now and no plan b. Also let’s face it, we’re not that good at Roy’s main strength anymore, which is keeping the ball out of the net.

Edited by monkey (18 Jan 2021 6.35pm)

 


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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 18 Jan 21 7.16pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

I can put up with a lot of the anti-football, what I can't tolerate is when we did attack last night it was with zero conviction, first 20 minutes was better, previously we've played very tight but when we counter we have tried to create an opportunity, or just gain territorial advantage, give our defenders a break whatever, but we were almost wilfully impotent last night, and that's why this fence-sitter thinks Roy and his boys deserve all the flak they are getting for that 'performance'.


 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jan 21 7.51pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by slubglurge

What bothers me is City could have played without a keeper and would still have won

We're still playing but haven't had any shots yet.

 


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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 18 Jan 21 10.02pm Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

We played a seriously classy and in form City and rested two of our up front three that had given Arsenal a lot of problems on Thursday. There weren’t many complaints about that performance, and the way they took Newcastle apart tonight puts it all in perspective

 

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