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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 23 Jan 21 3.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I can't address the 'you didn't say this when..' style approach, without talking about the contradictions involved in taking it. You're hardly 'giving him time' with regard to the Biden Presidency, much like people didn't with Trump. Difference being that you believe you do so as a reaction to others lowly behaviour and hypocrisy rather than it also being your own. A 'they made me do it, or they did it first' outlook. Of course we can all claim that or emulate the pickings from the trash can of our political opposites, but it may not serve us well.

Centralists hold a decent amount of sway. Swings voters and moderates tip many an election. They may not always get precisely what they like, but they help to draw parties towards certain aspects of popular appeal. In polarised times the opposites (who ironically have a lot in common in their mindset) bounce off one another and crave for others to joint their tribe. If someone highlights instances of foolishness and policies across the board its at least an honest approach, even if they aren't getting invited to any parties!

Edited by BlueJay (23 Jan 2021 2.49pm)

The 'trash cans' commentary being the literal leaders of the Democrats themselves just repeated by their followers.

I can't say I find your defence of your positions convincing. Still lets not go around the houses.

Lets see how wise your preferred pick over Trump ends up being.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jan 2021 3.25pm)

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 Jan 21 3.30pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i hope Biden goes full hardcore Antifa liberal leftie..........


and brings the whole sh1tshow down on his PC head.


i would p1ss myself laughing.

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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BlueJay Flag UK 23 Jan 21 3.32pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The 'trash cans' commentary being the literal leaders of the Democrats themselves just repeated by their followers.

I can't say I find your defence of your positions convincing. Still lets not go around the houses.

Lets see how wise your preferred pick over Trump ends up being.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jan 2021 3.25pm)

There hasn't been a position that I've needed to defend so I can't help you there.

I struggle to say I prefer Biden over anyone, but didn't have the highest opinion of Trump so we will see. I'm not sure that society is designed to operate at full throttle for such a period of time, so Grandpa Joe sleeping rather than tweeting through a Presidency may have a certain balance to it.


 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 23 Jan 21 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

There hasn't been a position that I've needed to defend so I can't help you there.

I struggle to say I prefer Biden over anyone, but didn't have the highest opinion of Trump so we will see. I'm not sure that society is designed to operate at full throttle for such a period of time, so Grandpa Joe sleeping rather than tweeting through a Presidency may have a certain balance to it.


Really, perhaps you should have looked at the 25 executive orders Biden signed in his first two days....The record before that was 8....so personally I don't follow with this, 'we just don't know' take.

You seem to think things are going to settle down under Biden whereas I view things as being very different with much more radicalism on both sides.....but then again, we represent very difference world views as to what works holistically with the human condition.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jan 2021 3.47pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Jan 21 3.48pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Aside from this not really having anything to do with US politics, I think this is very concerning isn't it?

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Doesn't concern me at all. Why should it? So long as it's properly managed to ensure that there is nothing untoward then there is no reason not to allow the Chinese to compete. If we want to sell them things then we must expect to allow them to at least try to sell them to us. That's the way world trade works in 2021.

The Philippines is destined to come into the Chinese sphere of influence. The USA abrogated it's role there after the Vietnam war.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 23 Jan 21 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Wish you wouldn’t waffle so much and get straight to the point

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 23 Jan 21 4.09pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Doesn't concern me at all. Why should it? So long as it's properly managed to ensure that there is nothing untoward then there is no reason not to allow the Chinese to compete. If we want to sell them things then we must expect to allow them to at least try to sell them to us. That's the way world trade works in 2021.

The Philippines is destined to come into the Chinese sphere of influence. The USA abrogated it's role there after the Vietnam war.

Be careful what you wish for. The Chinese have been buying there way into many countries, for many years. I have witnessed it in pakistan and the Caribbean. They are not doing it for the good of anyone but themselves.
I had a long conversation with a chap who owned a British Cheesemaking factory, they had been approached by the Chinese for a visit with a view to a trade deal. The British company paid for everything for the Chinese. Basically it was a spying mission, the entourage was basically scientists, they had to stop them taking photographs of the factory, even attempted to take the temperature of the cheese etc so they could replicate the cheese and sell rather than deal with the company.
My daughters satellite company refuse to have Chinese visitations.
Why would you trust them after Wuhan?

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 23 Jan 21 4.10pm

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Originally posted by davenotamonkey

"There is nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months."

How odd. During the campaign:

"We're eight months into this pandemic, and Donald Trump still doesn't have a plan to get this virus under control. I do." (15/10/20)

So was his plan to do nothing to change the tracjectory of the virus then? Would have been nice if any of the press provided some scrutiny of this "plan" during the election.

Your understanding of this, and the usual "jump on the bandwagon" contributions that follow yours, is really absurd.

Biden and his team have a plan. It's been talked about for months and isn't so different to what we and other countries have been doing. Social distancing, mask-wearing, testing, isolating the infected and close contacts and, of course, vaccinate as fast as humanly possible.

It has been scrutinised, discussed and supported by the media. Just ignored by Trump.

That's not the point of Biden making his remark is it?

He is warning people that there are no instant answers primarily because these things weren't done early enough. That the trajectory cannot be altered for some months is a direct consequence of the LACK of action and not because they are now doing the right things.

It seems that some people are determined to knife Biden in his first week and to claim justification because they feel that Trump was given the same treatment. It's complete nonsense. If that's the level of debate we are going to witness here now this will quickly become a very uninspiring and tedious place.

Trump deserved all he got and more. He did nothing other than lie constantly. Biden is being open and honest. He won't always succeed, especially when people try to obstruct him, but what he will do will genuinely be for the good of the country and all its people.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Your understanding of this, and the usual "jump on the bandwagon" contributions that follow yours, is really absurd.

Biden and his team have a plan. It's been talked about for months and isn't so different to what we and other countries have been doing. Social distancing, mask-wearing, testing, isolating the infected and close contacts and, of course, vaccinate as fast as humanly possible.

It has been scrutinised, discussed and supported by the media. Just ignored by Trump.

That's not the point of Biden making his remark is it?

He is warning people that there are no instant answers primarily because these things weren't done early enough. That the trajectory cannot be altered for some months is a direct consequence of the LACK of action and not because they are now doing the right things.

It seems that some people are determined to knife Biden in his first week and to claim justification because they feel that Trump was given the same treatment. It's complete nonsense. If that's the level of debate we are going to witness here now this will quickly become a very uninspiring and tedious place.

Trump deserved all he got and more. He did nothing other than lie constantly. Biden is being open and honest. He won't always succeed, especially when people try to obstruct him, but what he will do will genuinely be for the good of the country and all its people.

Well the 'all of its people' who arnt republican!
I said it will be a witch hunt. Jobs lost, bank accounts closed, knock on the door, arrests for minor offenses. Anything to physcologically change peoples minds for the next election. The problem will be that the media wont report it as it isnt trump in charge and s***ting on their own doorstep is messy.

 

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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 23 Jan 21 4.29pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Confirmed Lizard Person.

Maybe he's lost his mask... or his mind.

Edited by BlueJay (23 Jan 2021 3.09pm)

Just your common or garden lizard?
I mean the news team recognise it as Biden albeit rather reluctantly.
And those words at the end of the clip? Not what you'd expect from one of the new president's subjects.
Peculiar.

 

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'In 2012 the left were saying 'damn those evil bankers', in 2020 the left are being sponsored by bankers to say, 'damn those evil white people'. (Anon)

 


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