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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Aug 21 4.26pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Premier League VAR changes.

1.Benefit of doubt given to the attacking player.

2.Thicker lines used to determine offsides.

3.VAR team won't intervene for “trivial offences”

4.Slight contact in area won't lead to penalties.

5.Accidental handballs by team-mates unpunished.

6.Viewers won't see images of decisions.

3 Aug 2021


Looks great, until you see that it will mostly be a matter of opinion.

What, for example, constitutes 'a trivial offence'.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 10 Aug 21 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

I'm encouraged that the interpretation will be much better under the new rules and it was discussed a few days ago on the 'VAR at it's worst' thread.

This feature which appeared on the BBC site explained pretty well that the 'trivial issues' were things like offside decisions arising from a knee or elbow over a very thin line and taking 2 or 3 minutes to decide, during which time all spontaneity and excitement of the moment were lost.

We have to hope that referees will take more control of the game and use their experience and nous to make decisions that could effect the natural flow of the game. We'll see. Anyway, here's the BBC feature again.

VAR 'won't penalise trivial things' in Premier League next season - [Link]

 


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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 10 Aug 21 6.37pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

6) thats bollocks, if something is being wiped put by VAR i want to see why.

all those who put bruno fernandes in their dreamteam will be gutted.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 10 Aug 21 7.38pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

A "trivial offence" will be one committed by Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs or Arsenal against a "lesser" club, whereas the similar offence committed AGAINST one of those six clubs by a "lesser club" will be a "non-trivial offence".

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Aug 21 9.41pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'slight contact in the penalty area' sounds just great but will inevitably lead to all sorts of different interpretations.

If the idea is for the ref to have more say then why not do just that and not have the VAR 'rigmarole' at all.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 11 Aug 21 6.47am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'slight contact in the penalty area' sounds just great but will inevitably lead to all sorts of different interpretations.

If the idea is for the ref to have more say then why not do just that and not have the VAR 'rigmarole' at all.


I agree. VAR - like Hawkeye in other sports - is supposed to establish the facts of a situation whereas what it's actually done is to introduce an extra layer of interpretation, which in turn gives rise to perplexing outcomes.

 


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View crvenaeagle's Profile crvenaeagle Flag 12 Aug 21 7.07am Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

The line drawing absolutely has to go, more than anything else. Either they design a computer than can make an immediate decision or they decide that if it's not immediately obvious to the naked eye on a still image that the attacker gets the benefit.
There's nothing more painstaking than having to wait for the boys with their toys to get their line drawing gadgets out and play about on their computers. It's like that mate that has to whip out his new phone at every given moment because he "has an app for this!", it's just got to load first.

On a side note, I've been meaning to ask for others opinion on here. I've always known the offside rule to be "any playable part of the body" yet we've seen offsides given for arms, hands, even shirt sleeves last season. Has the rule been changed??

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Aug 21 7.50am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

As others have posted my main concern is that we will no longer see the pictures. I think this is a backward step.

Whilst I didn't like Wilf's goal being ruled offside because of an arm or chest at least I understood how they arrived at the decision. If it happened enough times you can then have a debate on changing the rules.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Aug 21 10.14am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Will the new rules stop raheem sterling stamping on people's toes & diving in the box ?

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Aug 21 10.51am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

As others have posted my main concern is that we will no longer see the pictures. I think this is a backward step.

Whilst I didn't like Wilf's goal being ruled offside because of an arm or chest at least I understood how they arrived at the decision. If it happened enough times you can then have a debate on changing the rules.

My understanding is that one will not see the pictures whilst the check is still in progress but pictures will be permitted after the check is complete to show why the decision was made as per the protocol in the Euros.

Edited by Willo (12 Aug 2021 10.59am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Aug 21 12.06pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

My understanding is that one will not see the pictures whilst the check is still in progress but pictures will be permitted after the check is complete to show why the decision was made as per the protocol in the Euros.

Edited by Willo (12 Aug 2021 10.59am)

Fair enough

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Aug 21 12.46pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Could they not just give Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U and Man City an extra man and have done with all of this? Charade.

 


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