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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 30 Aug 21 12.24pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

No, this is not about Python, but about F1.

Did any of you try to watch yesterday's Belgian GP at Spa? It ended as a farce rather than a race. Two laps lasting about eight minutes behind the safety car in the starting grid formation.

Well, I've been there several times, the first time 30 years ago when Michael Schumacher made his F1 debut. It's a magnificent circuit, but the weather is notoriously bad. It rains frequently and watching a GP requires a certain amount of stamina at the best of times. In constant pouring rain it's miserable and requires real devotion.

To think of all those folk who travelled to watch 20 F1 cars battle it out for an hour and a half and eventually get to see an 8 minute parade is dreadful. Watching Grand Prix these days is a hyper expensive business including the cost of travel and sustenance and no-one gets a refund because it was classified as a race. 2 laps qualifies.

I bet there are plenty of miserable folk around this morning feeling cheated by the sport they love.Lewis Hamilton says he feels sorry for the fans. But presumably not sorry enough to cough up a refund of their ticket money from his own vast fortune which he's made from racing. Which he would hardly notice.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 30 Aug 21 12.32pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Why can't they simply cancel and re-arrange it.

Really made a mockery of F1, actually yes very python-esque.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Aug 21 12.50pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Genuinely a mockery. I would think they need to change the rules to a minimum 21 laps. At least someone could perhaps overtake.
The other thing to do would each team has a rain 'kit' for their cars and still race, if there's any safe way to do that. As long as it's set by the stewards on the day, then every team uses it.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 30 Aug 21 1.01pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Why can't they simply cancel and re-arrange it.

Really made a mockery of F1, actually yes very python-esque.

Logistics mainly. ALL the marshals are volunteers with jobs & don't get paid. So, to get them to do another day(today would be preferred), is not feasible.

There is no space left in the calendar to slot a re-arranged race in. I do agree, however, that the race(not that it was) should never gone ahead. Money talks, end of, especially now the Yanks run it.

 


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View sitdownstandup's Profile sitdownstandup Flag 30 Aug 21 1.37pm Send a Private Message to sitdownstandup Add sitdownstandup as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

No, this is not about Python, but about F1.

Did any of you try to watch yesterday's Belgian GP at Spa? It ended as a farce rather than a race. Two laps lasting about eight minutes behind the safety car in the starting grid formation.

Well, I've been there several times, the first time 30 years ago when Michael Schumacher made his F1 debut. It's a magnificent circuit, but the weather is notoriously bad. It rains frequently and watching a GP requires a certain amount of stamina at the best of times. In constant pouring rain it's miserable and requires real devotion.

To think of all those folk who travelled to watch 20 F1 cars battle it out for an hour and a half and eventually get to see an 8 minute parade is dreadful. Watching Grand Prix these days is a hyper expensive business including the cost of travel and sustenance and no-one gets a refund because it was classified as a race. 2 laps qualifies.

I bet there are plenty of miserable folk around this morning feeling cheated by the sport they love.Lewis Hamilton says he feels sorry for the fans. But presumably not sorry enough to cough up a refund of their ticket money from his own vast fortune which he's made from racing. Which he would hardly notice.

All the drivers collectively plus the owners are on a massive wage. If the fans have been so let down by the sport not just Hamilton but all of them could easily collectively refund them.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 30 Aug 21 5.18pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Well now, they've acted quickly, lets see whether these talks are useful & beneficial . . . [Link]

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 30 Aug 21 5.41pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Well now, they've acted quickly, lets see whether these talks are useful & beneficial . . . [Link]

Oh good! "lessons were learnt". Don't you just hate that catchall, condescending phrase? But, at least they've been fast to act as you say eagleman.

The F1 organisation did not handle the situation at Spa very well at all. And they know it.

 


Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 30 Aug 21 6.44pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

F1 is inherently farcical.

 


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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 30 Aug 21 9.54pm Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

The rules state that if less than 70% of race distance is completed but at least 2 laps have been completed then half of the normal points score will be awarded. I've no problem with the 75%, but surely there should a lot more than 2 laps completed for any points to be awarded. Cruising round for 2 laps as happened yesterday hardly constitutes a race.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 31 Aug 21 7.12am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

The rules state that if less than 70% of race distance is completed but at least 2 laps have been completed then half of the normal points score will be awarded. I've no problem with the 75%, but surely there should a lot more than 2 laps completed for any points to be awarded. Cruising round for 2 laps as happened yesterday hardly constitutes a race.

You DO have a problem with the 75%. It's different from 70%.

 


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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 31 Aug 21 9.44am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

F1 is a bit of a joke nowadays anyway and nothing like the fun it once was.
Verstappen is great and a proper racer and there are some good youngsters coming through as well but it is so sanitised now.
As another poster said - the money you have to spend on a Grand Prix weekend for travel, bed and board is ridiculous nowadays.
The "result" probably stops fans claiming their ticket money back - absolute greed and farce at the same time.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 31 Aug 21 11.07am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Ecclestone and Ballestre knew how to run F1. It wasn't perfect , by a long way, but progress was always structured and not rushed. Everyone knew what they were doing.

The latest offering by the F1 circus looks like it was organised by President Biden.

 


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