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 Matov  17 Sep 21 7.24am |
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Huge development. Leaving the EU, and France especially, seething. What is AUKUS... Saw an interview with the French Foreign Minister and if the sub-titles are correct, then not a happy bunny in the slightest. Edited by Matov (17 Sep 2021 7.26am)
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 17 Sep 21 8.01am |
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Apparently Aukus is a conglomerate of Oz, US and UK who are going to build nuclear submarines to patrol the Channel and do the job the French can't, in stopping the migrants.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 17 Sep 21 8.48am |
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then i really have no sympathy for them.
Eze Peasy at Anfield.... |
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| nobody sussex 17 Sep 21 9.25am |
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If it upsets the French then it must be a great deal
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| nobody sussex 17 Sep 21 9.29am |
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French say it's a stab in the back.
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| CPFC1965 Warrington 17 Sep 21 9.55am |
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If we were still in the EU then I could sympathise with the French, but we're not. Don't forget they blockaded one of the channel islands illegally a few months ago. Personally I'd deploy an armoured division in Calais just to remind them of their responsibilities.
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| silvertop Portishead 17 Sep 21 10.11am |
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Stab in back was because of a cancelled submarine contract consequent of this alliance. If you lost a E50B contract you might also be miffed. In terms of military alliance, it may have been sensible to include French ships and subs in this arrangement. They are an important ally, their trade routes are as important to them as us, and they are the only sensible military presence in the EU. S,o China f***s with the alliance they f**k with the US, the UK, Oz and the EU. Edited by silvertop (17 Sep 2021 10.11am)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Sep 21 10.25am |
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This is actually good for France and New Zealand wisely distancing from this Biden entrapment. The French lose an order, they also lose duplicitous Oz, the UK and are not a USA puppet. Biden will ditch us and Oz without a thought when it suits him, as we have recently seen. China is right these countries are trying to re-live their cold war fantasies when they were important but are no longer. Nuclear submarines Russia and China already have them, it is years down the track and the Oz ones will not even be armed. The UK should stay away from China it is not in any way a threat to the UK, a geriatric US president desperate to restore his reputation definitely is.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Sep 21 10.49am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Apparently Aukus is a conglomerate of Oz, US and UK who are going to build nuclear submarines to patrol the Channel and do the job the French can't, in stopping the migrants.
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 17 Sep 21 11.03am |
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Our nuclear subs rather than the French diesel jobs. No contest. Although anyone watching Vigil might wonder. What a load of tosh is that?
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 17 Sep 21 3.22pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Stab in back was because of a cancelled submarine contract consequent of this alliance. If you lost a E50B contract you might also be miffed. In terms of military alliance, it may have been sensible to include French ships and subs in this arrangement. They are an important ally, their trade routes are as important to them as us, and they are the only sensible military presence in the EU. S,o China f***s with the alliance they f**k with the US, the UK, Oz and the EU. Edited by silvertop (17 Sep 2021 10.11am)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 17 Sep 21 3.30pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
There will never be an 'old fashioned war' between superpowers.
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