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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 24 Sep 21 3.53pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by becky

If the driver shortage is all down to Brexit, how come that it's only reared it's head now, some21 months after we left the EU?

Things were fine up to 3 months ago.......

About the same time as the Govt's deadline for ALL foreign nationals to register for residency, same as ex-pats in (most) of europe.

You are of course right, it's got NOTHING to do with Brexit, thats just the remoaners crying foul again, as well as those that dislike the UK.

Anyway, gonna be more shelves empty & petrol stations closed, seeing as those crusaders for the common man, 'insulate britain' have blockaded Dover & the foreign drivers wanting to return home for the w/e basically are *ahem* persuading them to desist & go elsewhere.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 24 Sep 21 3.58pm

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Perhaps not all down to Brexit, but Rod McKenzie of the RHA, states that the 20,000 European drivers who have left the country have left a big hole!

Yeah, big hole indeed! The brexit thing only kicked in January , takes a little time to filter in, and here we have it! In boris we trust becky, in boris we trust!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 24 Sep 21 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Maybe it’s the anti-Brexit press that are fuelling panic? I know this doesn’t conform to the left agenda. Personally I would believe drivers but hey...

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View AuntyAnne70's Profile AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 24 Sep 21 4.17pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

Remainers didn't cause this pantomime and I don't see the same problems happening elsewhere in Europe.

But hey we have now given the go ahead to Ministers to relax UK immigration rules to allow more foreign truck drivers into the country to ease shortages at petrol stations and wider economic disruption.


Don't think Priti will be happy!

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 24 Sep 21 4.31pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Maybe it’s the anti-Brexit press that are fuelling panic? I know this doesn’t conform to the left agenda. Personally I would believe drivers but hey...

So we should believe Neil on Facebook over all of the industry experts.

Brexit in a nutshell really.

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 24 Sep 21 4.33pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Remainers didn't cause this pantomime and I don't see the same problems happening elsewhere in Europe.

But hey we have now given the go ahead to Ministers to relax UK immigration rules to allow more foreign truck drivers into the country to ease shortages at petrol stations and wider economic disruption.


Don't think Priti will be happy!

There's now plenty of work for European truck drivers in any of the 27 member states and they won't want to lose money through IR35 or by damaging their relations with their existing long term clients by working in the UK for only a few weeks or months. I don't think there'll be many takers for UK work anymore, not after the way many European workers were treated over the last 5 years in the UK.

Edited by Orange1290 (24 Sep 2021 4.33pm)

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 24 Sep 21 4.34pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Remainers didn't cause this pantomime and I don't see the same problems happening elsewhere in Europe.

But hey we have now given the go ahead to Ministers to relax UK immigration rules to allow more foreign truck drivers into the country to ease shortages at petrol stations and wider economic disruption.


Don't think Priti will be happy!

I thought the EU were struggling for drivers as well? Still if it doesn’t suit an agenda don’t mention it

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View AuntyAnne70's Profile AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 24 Sep 21 4.42pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

It was the irony of us thinking that the foreign drivers that we told we no longer needed/welcomed here may want to come back!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Sep 21 4.49pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

"Queues form at petrol stations as drivers urged not to panic buy"

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Don't panic Captain Mainwaring! Also looks like huge increase in imports of Turkeys from Poland and France due to UK farms not having the resources to produce their own this year. Nothing to do with Brexit of course, lol.

Edited by Orange1290 (24 Sep 2021 12.11pm)

IR 35 rules meant that these fruit pickers, lorry drivers, bar staff and other EU nationals had to go on the cards.
I posted this earlier. The employers thought that hmg would buckle. They haven't and won't. Lefty posters better get ready for bumbling boris to become boris the realist. These employers should have put up a few more quid to cover the difference between contractors and PAYE.
They didn't so eu folks went home to earn the same as they would as paye here. Not 450 out of every 500 they were earning here contracting before IR35 but now the realistic 360-380 that all paye earn here.
So yes brexit played a part but indirectly.
What has played the major part Is HMG levelling the playing field to stop piss takers getting more than the 18 0dd million who play fair and have no way to scam the system. Any state workers on here should be made up as when can you scam it? Never; so it's fair. Lots I reckon will be back within 6 months when they realise
Ts and Cs in the eu aren't all they're cracked up to be compared to the UK.
I voted remain but by God wish I had voted brexit. I feel dirty for not doing so.
The great reset is happening so suck it up!

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Sep 21 4.57pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Our pile up of problems does not exist in the EU.

Did they exist when we were in the EU? No, they did not.

Do they now? Yes, and forecast to get worse.

Brexiteers live in a world of complete denial, as do much of the media and the government for obvious reasons, to the extent of projecting these problems on covid and editing out the truth that they are brexit related.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

IR 35 rules meant that these fruit pickers, lorry drivers, bar staff and other EU nationals had to go on the cards.
I posted this earlier. The employers thought that hmg would buckle. They haven't and won't. Lefty posters better get ready for bumbling boris to become boris the realist. These employers should have put up a few more quid to cover the difference between contractors and PAYE.
They didn't so eu folks went home to earn the same as they would as paye here. Not 450 out of every 500 they were earning here contracting before IR35 but now the realistic 360-380 that all paye earn here.
So yes brexit played a part but indirectly.
What has played the major part Is HMG levelling the playing field to stop piss takers getting more than the 18 0dd million who play fair and have no way to scam the system. Any state workers on here should be made up as when can you scam it? Never; so it's fair. Lots I reckon will be back within 6 months when they realise
Ts and Cs in the eu aren't all they're cracked up to be compared to the UK.
I voted remain but by God wish I had voted brexit. I feel dirty for not doing so.
The great reset is happening so suck it up!

Typically jealous of those who took the risk of being self employed and did nothing illegally and managed to get some benefit for that risk.

You don't even know what the term reset means in any context, simply using terms someone else has used without understanding anything about it. Lots of this rubbish spouted over the last 18 months. The only people 'sucking' anything up are people like you right now with a mess of a country that Johnson has truly made. Still, keep yourself in denial as it provides mild entertainment for the rest of us but millions of UK citizens are suffering the consequences as a result of a selfish few.

Edited by Orange1290 (24 Sep 2021 4.59pm)

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Sep 21 5.10pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

Typically jealous of those who took the risk of being self employed and did nothing illegally and managed to get some benefit for that risk.

You don't even know what the term reset means in any context, simply using terms someone else has used without understanding anything about it. Lots of this rubbish spouted over the last 18 months. The only people 'sucking' anything up are people like you right now with a mess of a country that Johnson has truly made. Still, keep yourself in denial as it provides mild entertainment for the rest of us but millions of UK citizens are suffering the consequences as a result of a selfish few.

Edited by Orange1290 (24 Sep 2021 4.59pm)

I've been self employed and know the risk.
I also know the rewards for scamming. Who makes up the difference in shortages. Yup the paye crowd. It wasn't the risk my old fruit, it is the unfairness of the majority financing the minority. Wherever you live would you seriously be happy for your neighbour to have the same or more than you and contribute physically and financially a lot less?

 

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