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Stirlingsays 05 Oct 21 2.56pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Censured methinks Yep, correct. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

05 Oct 21 2.56pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Censured methinks

Yep, correct.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Spiderman Horsham 05 Oct 21 3.43pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin It may not be fair to lump them together but the civil servants - big or small - local or Whitehall - are currently doing bugger all and constantly live by a different set of rules to the private sector. Not to be admired. My wife is a civil servant who works at Gatwick and has reported for duty everyday scheduled during the pandemic so I find your observation totally incorrect and quite disrespectful. Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2021 3.47pm) Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2021 4.04pm)
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Spiderman

Horsham 05 Oct 21 3.43pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

It may not be fair to lump them together but the civil servants - big or small - local or Whitehall - are currently doing bugger all and constantly live by a different set of rules to the private sector.
Not to be admired.

My wife is a civil servant who works at Gatwick and has reported for duty everyday scheduled during the pandemic so I find your observation totally incorrect and quite disrespectful.

Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2021 3.47pm)

Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2021 4.04pm)

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Spiderman Horsham 05 Oct 21 3.45pm
Originally posted by Mapletree The Police Federation is the most powerful and extreme Trade Union (forget that it's supposed to be a Staff Association) I have ever faced. Its power is rampant and results in those who should be performance managed or disciplined getting away, sometimes literally, with murder. No single Commissioner can resolve that. My wife used to work for the Police Complaints Authority, she has some �interesting � stories. For some of the lack of punishment look no further than the � funny handshake� brigade
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Horsham 05 Oct 21 3.45pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

The Police Federation is the most powerful and extreme Trade Union (forget that it's supposed to be a Staff Association) I have ever faced.

Its power is rampant and results in those who should be performance managed or disciplined getting away, sometimes literally, with murder. No single Commissioner can resolve that.

My wife used to work for the Police Complaints Authority, she has some �interesting � stories. For some of the lack of punishment look no further than the � funny handshake� brigade

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Spiderman Horsham 05 Oct 21 4.06pm
Originally posted by Mapletree The Police Federation is the most powerful and extreme Trade Union (forget that it's supposed to be a Staff Association) I have ever faced. Its power is rampant and results in those who should be performance managed or disciplined getting away, sometimes literally, with murder. No single Commissioner can resolve that. By the way welcome back Maple, hope all is well
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Horsham 05 Oct 21 4.06pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

The Police Federation is the most powerful and extreme Trade Union (forget that it's supposed to be a Staff Association) I have ever faced.

Its power is rampant and results in those who should be performance managed or disciplined getting away, sometimes literally, with murder. No single Commissioner can resolve that.

By the way welcome back Maple, hope all is well

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Mapletree Croydon 05 Oct 21 9.31pm
Originally posted by Spiderman By the way welcome back Maple, hope all is well You are very kind Spidey I remain fine thanks. I hope you are too. Should you be going to the Arse game perhaps we can have a pint. Edited by Mapletree (05 Oct 2021 9.31pm)
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Mapletree

Croydon 05 Oct 21 9.31pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

By the way welcome back Maple, hope all is well

You are very kind Spidey

I remain fine thanks. I hope you are too.

Should you be going to the Arse game perhaps we can have a pint.

Edited by Mapletree (05 Oct 2021 9.31pm)

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Spiderman Horsham 05 Oct 21 9.53pm
Originally posted by Mapletree You are very kind Spidey I remain fine thanks. I hope you are too. Should you be going to the Arse game perhaps we can have a pint. Edited by Mapletree (05 Oct 2021 9.31pm) Many thanks but unfortunately am not able to get to the Emirates. Will arrange a meet sometime soon. All well here
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Spiderman

Horsham 05 Oct 21 9.53pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

You are very kind Spidey

I remain fine thanks. I hope you are too.

Should you be going to the Arse game perhaps we can have a pint.

Edited by Mapletree (05 Oct 2021 9.31pm)

Many thanks but unfortunately am not able to get to the Emirates. Will arrange a meet sometime soon. All well here

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dreamwaverider Online London 06 Oct 21 2.14am
Send Cressida down to Selhurst. Feed her up on cardboard food quench her with half a dozen pints. Teach her some songs and send her out with the Ultras right by the drums. Might not improve her policing but she would have the afternoon of a lifetime and become a true red and blue.
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Send Cressida down to Selhurst. Feed her up on cardboard food quench her with half a dozen pints. Teach her some songs and send her out with the Ultras right by the drums. Might not improve her policing but she would have the afternoon of a lifetime and become a true red and blue.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 06 Oct 21 12.40pm
It's true that the awful circumstances of the Sarah Everard case are extremely rare thankfully. IMHO it is the betrayal of trust that people are so shocked and angry about, but that is no reason to start a panic of behaviour when dealing with the police. If it is true the murderer was known around work as " The Rapist " and he was not properly dealt with after the McDonalds exposure incident that does raise very serious questions. I agree that policing is difficult and very different to other jobs. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 06 Oct 21 12.40pm

It's true that the awful circumstances of the Sarah Everard case are extremely rare thankfully.

IMHO it is the betrayal of trust that people are so shocked and angry about, but that is no reason to start a panic of behaviour when dealing with the police.

If it is true the murderer was known around work as " The Rapist " and he was not properly dealt with after the McDonalds exposure incident that does raise very serious questions.

I agree that policing is difficult and very different to other jobs.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Stirlingsays 06 Oct 21 1.10pm
Originally posted by HKOwen It's true that the awful circumstances of the Sarah Everard case are extremely rare thankfully. IMHO it is the betrayal of trust that people are so shocked and angry about, but that is no reason to start a panic of behaviour when dealing with the police. If it is true the murderer was known around work as " The Rapist " and he was not properly dealt with after the McDonalds exposure incident that does raise very serious questions. I agree that policing is difficult and very different to other jobs. I agree, the media overegg the pudding because that's their payment model. People can be unfairly labelled at work but once that exposure incident occurred that should have resulted in proper attention being paid....this guy was a Police officer...indecent exposure is sexual and not compatible with having the responsibility and power of a police officer.....makes you think how they just let that pass. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

06 Oct 21 1.10pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

It's true that the awful circumstances of the Sarah Everard case are extremely rare thankfully.

IMHO it is the betrayal of trust that people are so shocked and angry about, but that is no reason to start a panic of behaviour when dealing with the police.

If it is true the murderer was known around work as " The Rapist " and he was not properly dealt with after the McDonalds exposure incident that does raise very serious questions.

I agree that policing is difficult and very different to other jobs.

I agree, the media overegg the pudding because that's their payment model.

People can be unfairly labelled at work but once that exposure incident occurred that should have resulted in proper attention being paid....this guy was a Police officer...indecent exposure is sexual and not compatible with having the responsibility and power of a police officer.....makes you think how they just let that pass.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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becky over the moon 06 Oct 21 2.39pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I agree, the media overegg the pudding because that's their payment model. People can be unfairly labelled at work but once that exposure incident occurred that should have resulted in proper attention being paid....this guy was a Police officer...indecent exposure is sexual and not compatible with having the responsibility and power of a police officer.....makes you think how they just let that pass. Last time I looked, indecent exposure was illegal...... unless you are a man who identifies as a woman in which case you can wave your willy around in changing rooms/ladies lavatories at will. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 06 Oct 21 2.39pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I agree, the media overegg the pudding because that's their payment model.

Last time I looked, indecent exposure was illegal*......

*unless you are a man who identifies as a woman in which case you can wave your willy around in changing rooms/ladies lavatories at will.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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The Dolphin 06 Oct 21 4.57pm
Originally posted by Spiderman My wife is a civil servant who works at Gatwick and has reported for duty everyday scheduled during the pandemic so I find your observation totally incorrect and quite disrespectful. Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2021 3.47pm) Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2021 4.04pm) I Apologies for generalising. I am of course aware that many do work and have done so - as have I - all through the pandemic. I should maybe have singled out Whitehall, local councils - my two certainly - the DVLA and the like.
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The Dolphin

06 Oct 21 4.57pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

My wife is a civil servant who works at Gatwick and has reported for duty everyday scheduled during the pandemic so I find your observation totally incorrect and quite disrespectful.

Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2021 3.47pm)

Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2021 4.04pm)

Apologies for generalising.
I am of course aware that many do work and have done so - as have I - all through the pandemic.
I should maybe have singled out Whitehall, local councils - my two certainly - the DVLA and the like.

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AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 06 Oct 21 6.07pm
I am an ex HM Treasury employee and I can assure you that many of them work very long hours (without overtime). Though some start late, they also stay very late. What you say may well be true of some other Whitehall departments, but definitely not HMT.
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AuntyAnne70

Tunbridge WElls 06 Oct 21 6.07pm

I am an ex HM Treasury employee and I can assure you that many of them work very long hours (without overtime). Though some start late, they also stay very late.

What you say may well be true of some other Whitehall departments, but definitely not HMT.

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