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Badger11 Beckenham 02 Feb 22 8.45am
Originally posted by The Dolphin We have taken a punt for the future. Subject to how the rest of his season goes I can see him being loaned out again next season. As for Rooney - I admire his loyalty to Derby County and i hope he does well as a Manager in the future - but to have a go at us? He should look at those above him if he wants to see who has taken advantage of a situation - Derby is a basket case! Agreed. I have been surprised by Rooney once the problems started I expected him to cut and run well I think he's done a decent job in impossible circumstances a real baptism of fire for your first job. All things considered the results haven't been too shabby either. I think he deserves a chance at another club and commend him for not leaving now. As for his complaints I don't blame him it's frustration and yes he is correct clubs have taken advantage of Derby's problems and will continue to do so in the summer unless they find a sugar daddy. Edited by Badger11 (02 Feb 2022 8.47am) One more point
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Beckenham 02 Feb 22 8.45am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

We have taken a punt for the future.
Subject to how the rest of his season goes I can see him being loaned out again next season.
As for Rooney - I admire his loyalty to Derby County and i hope he does well as a Manager in the future - but to have a go at us?
He should look at those above him if he wants to see who has taken advantage of a situation - Derby is a basket case!

Agreed.

I have been surprised by Rooney once the problems started I expected him to cut and run well I think he's done a decent job in impossible circumstances a real baptism of fire for your first job.

All things considered the results haven't been too shabby either.

I think he deserves a chance at another club and commend him for not leaving now.

As for his complaints I don't blame him it's frustration and yes he is correct clubs have taken advantage of Derby's problems and will continue to do so in the summer unless they find a sugar daddy.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Feb 2022 8.47am)

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Feb 22 9.21am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I had to smile when I read your post as it could have been written by Captain Beaky himself. We obviously wanted to sign the player and rumour had it that our original offer was just �300,000 but had to increase it to �1m in order to sign the player and not out of any altruist notion. We didn't want him right at this moment as we already have three strikers plus Jordan Ayew so it suited us to loan him out and Derby County are playing at a much higher level than the other clubs that we have loaned players to and miles ahead of what our development squad are playing. "Paying his wages" I doubt it as we won't have loaned him out free of charge That's how I read it too, Midland. We've seen an opportunity and taken it. The loan back might seem a generous offer from us (whether or not we pay all/some/none of his wages) but as you say he'll develop a lot quicker by staying at Derby than by playing in our U23s. I have to credit Rooney for sticking with the job. I have something of a soft spot for the club as my great-grandfather played for them. so I'm hoping they can do what 2 months ago seemed impossible and stay up. They're on a decent run. Finally, I can understand Rooney's frustration at losing Plange. The club couldn't afford to keep him because they needed our �1m.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Feb 22 9.21am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I had to smile when I read your post as it could have been written by Captain Beaky himself.

We obviously wanted to sign the player and rumour had it that our original offer was just �300,000 but had to increase it to �1m in order to sign the player and not out of any altruist notion.

We didn't want him right at this moment as we already have three strikers plus Jordan Ayew so it suited us to loan him out and Derby County are playing at a much higher level than the other clubs that we have loaned players to and miles ahead of what our development squad are playing.

"Paying his wages" I doubt it as we won't have loaned him out free of charge

That's how I read it too, Midland. We've seen an opportunity and taken it. The loan back might seem a generous offer from us (whether or not we pay all/some/none of his wages) but as you say he'll develop a lot quicker by staying at Derby than by playing in our U23s.

I have to credit Rooney for sticking with the job. I have something of a soft spot for the club as my great-grandfather played for them. so I'm hoping they can do what 2 months ago seemed impossible and stay up. They're on a decent run.

Finally, I can understand Rooney's frustration at losing Plange. The club couldn't afford to keep him because they needed our �1m.

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Glazed Expression York 02 Feb 22 9.37am
Wonder how many Tiffinians there are on this site. I�m one, but from a lifetime ago. I used to use the trolley buses to get to games. If all this means nothing to you, just ignore it�😜
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Wonder how many Tiffinians there are on this site. I�m one, but from a lifetime ago. I used to use the trolley buses to get to games. If all this means nothing to you, just ignore it�😜

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Midlands Eagle 02 Feb 22 9.52am
Originally posted by Glazed Expression Wonder how many Tiffinians there are on this site. I�m one, but from a lifetime ago. I was there from 1958 to 1965
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Originally posted by Glazed Expression

Wonder how many Tiffinians there are on this site. I�m one, but from a lifetime ago.

I was there from 1958 to 1965

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Ivybridge Eagle Ivybridge Devon 02 Feb 22 10.13am
I was there 1960 to 1966. Trolleybuses/Hampton Court/ Doctore Regnart/JJ Harper (Brig.)
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I was there 1960 to 1966.
Trolleybuses/Hampton Court/ Doctore Regnart/JJ Harper (Brig.)

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Midlands Eagle 02 Feb 22 11.16am
Originally posted by Ivybridge Eagle I was there 1960 to 1966. Trolleybuses/Hampton Court/ Doctore Regnart/JJ Harper (Brig.) Brigadier Harper was the headmaster throughout my stay too. I wonder how many more of us there are
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02 Feb 22 11.16am

Originally posted by Ivybridge Eagle

I was there 1960 to 1966.
Trolleybuses/Hampton Court/ Doctore Regnart/JJ Harper (Brig.)

Brigadier Harper was the headmaster throughout my stay too.

I wonder how many more of us there are

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chris123 hove actually 02 Feb 22 11.40am
Originally posted by Badger11 Agreed. I have been surprised by Rooney once the problems started I expected him to cut and run well I think he's done a decent job in impossible circumstances a real baptism of fire for your first job. All things considered the results haven't been too shabby either. I think he deserves a chance at another club and commend him for not leaving now. As for his complaints I don't blame him it's frustration and yes he is correct clubs have taken advantage of Derby's problems and will continue to do so in the summer unless they find a sugar daddy. Edited by Badger11 (02 Feb 2022 8.47am) Surely we'd have dealt with the administrators?
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hove actually 02 Feb 22 11.40am

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed.

I have been surprised by Rooney once the problems started I expected him to cut and run well I think he's done a decent job in impossible circumstances a real baptism of fire for your first job.

All things considered the results haven't been too shabby either.

I think he deserves a chance at another club and commend him for not leaving now.

As for his complaints I don't blame him it's frustration and yes he is correct clubs have taken advantage of Derby's problems and will continue to do so in the summer unless they find a sugar daddy.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Feb 2022 8.47am)

Surely we'd have dealt with the administrators?

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thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 02 Feb 22 5.14pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I wonder if all else fails and the club goes in to liquidation whether we could buy the ground as a) it's much better than Selhurst Park and more importantly b) it's much nearer to me I can see a few negatives though its in Derby, not as bad as Leicester but close! They're justified, and they're ancient And they drive an ice cream van
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I wonder if all else fails and the club goes in to liquidation whether we could buy the ground as a) it's much better than Selhurst Park and more importantly b) it's much nearer to me

I can see a few negatives though

its in Derby, not as bad as Leicester but close!

They're justified, and they're ancient
And they drive an ice cream van

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Ketteridge Brighton 02 Feb 22 7.10pm
Originally posted by doombear That's how I read it too, Midland. We've seen an opportunity and taken it. The loan back might seem a generous offer from us (whether or not we pay all/some/none of his wages) but as you say he'll develop a lot quicker by staying at Derby than by playing in our U23s. I have to credit Rooney for sticking with the job. I have something of a soft spot for the club as my great-grandfather played for them. so I'm hoping they can do what 2 months ago seemed impossible and stay up. They're on a decent run. Finally, I can understand Rooney's frustration at losing Plange. The club couldn't afford to keep him because they needed our �1m. Could be being cynical but we obviously want him to continue his development and a loan to championship club make sense as he is already at that level. As it was a late transfer there is a good chance that we only had time to set up with Derby. As Derby are in administration they would not be allowed to sign anyone, even on a free so for him to be able to go we would need to cover his wages. To be fair I might be being cynical and maybe we could have kept him in the u23 or on the bench otherwise but just seems to make sense all round rather than a generous spirit but hey ho makes us look good Edited by Ketteridge (02 Feb 2022 7.11pm) One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A
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Brighton 02 Feb 22 7.10pm

Originally posted by doombear

Finally, I can understand Rooney's frustration at losing Plange. The club couldn't afford to keep him because they needed our �1m.

Could be being cynical but we obviously want him to continue his development and a loan to championship club make sense as he is already at that level. As it was a late transfer there is a good chance that we only had time to set up with Derby.
As Derby are in administration they would not be allowed to sign anyone, even on a free so for him to be able to go we would need to cover his wages.
To be fair I might be being cynical and maybe we could have kept him in the u23 or on the bench otherwise but just seems to make sense all round rather than a generous spirit but hey ho makes us look good

Edited by Ketteridge (02 Feb 2022 7.11pm)

One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

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Badger11 Beckenham 03 Feb 22 8.41am
He was subbed at half time last night any idea why? I know derby had a player sent off so was this tactical? Edited by Badger11 (03 Feb 2022 8.41am) One more point
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Beckenham 03 Feb 22 8.41am

He was subbed at half time last night any idea why? I know derby had a player sent off so was this tactical?

Edited by Badger11 (03 Feb 2022 8.41am)

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 03 Feb 22 9.26am
Originally posted by Badger11 He was subbed at half time last night any idea why? I know derby had a player sent off so was this tactical? Edited by Badger11 (03 Feb 2022 8.41am) Yes mate i believe it was. Rooney was doing a 'Roy', defend the point. Derby's player was dismissed in the 3rd minute. Plange was playing up top on his own & clearly unable to be effective either in attack OR in defence. I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 03 Feb 22 9.26am

Originally posted by Badger11

He was subbed at half time last night any idea why? I know derby had a player sent off so was this tactical?

Edited by Badger11 (03 Feb 2022 8.41am)

Yes mate i believe it was. Rooney was doing a 'Roy', defend the point. Derby's player was dismissed in the 3rd minute. Plange was playing up top on his own & clearly unable to be effective either in attack OR in defence.

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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silvertop Portishead 03 Feb 22 1.33pm
Derby whining about being taken advantage of. Possibly. �1m is dirt cheap, even for a 19 year old. Then again, it is �1m in their (administrator's) coffers to assist their escape from insolvency. And they get to keep the player.
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Portishead 03 Feb 22 1.33pm

Derby whining about being taken advantage of.

Possibly. �1m is dirt cheap, even for a 19 year old.

Then again, it is �1m in their (administrator's) coffers to assist their escape from insolvency. And they get to keep the player.

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