Do they have to carry out health and safety reports prior to concerts? For example, taking into account that some concerts would be higher risks than others?

I have seen claims, and zero way of verifying/commenting on whether they are true or not, that the Security team at that venue is known for being willing to take a back-hander by way of letting people without tickets in? But I guess that will all emerge in any subsequent enquiry but as I understand it that person whose concert it was had already stressed that people without tickets should not turn up so it appears that this event was clearly one in which potential issues had been identified in advance.

Tragic death of Rebecca Ikumelo, 33, from Newham, east London, died in hospital on Saturday morning, two others critical.

After the 4 boys at Solihull, it's painful.

No comparison.

They are both terrible tragedys but one involved what seems to have been a tragic accident with kids just doing what kids do i.e playing out and tragedy unfolding.

Whereas the other, if the claims about this attempt to rush the entrance being organised via Social-Media are true, is essentially the consequences of potentially a criminal act.

And the question has to be asked of the lady who died in Brixton. Did she have a ticket? Or had she gone to that venue as part of the wider conspiracy to force entrance? She was not there by accident nor caught up in the scrum as just a bystander.

I saw a tweet last night claiming that doormen were letting in people without tickets. At this point this is completely unsubstantiated, and may not even be true.

But if there is any truth in this, it would explain alot.

You only need 1 rogue doorman who is going to ticketless people (maybe their mates) for a certain amount of money, and word is going to spread like wildfire across social media. So, for a sold out concert, you have large numbers descending thinking they might get in through a back door.

The crime of rushing to see a musical artist you might like would appear to be someone less important than the fact she's now dead. It may have been an ill advised thing to do, and she may or may not have had a ticket, but that would seem to be more than enough of a price paid for her actions. We should still lend dignity to her life. There's little need to to pedantically berate a dead person over a minor mistake after it's already happened.

From the perspective of trying to stop this happening again I get the questions, but ultimately it's still tragic that this woman died and she's clearly not in any meaningful sense a criminal. She just made a minor mistake that tragically cost her her life.

Edited by footythoughts (18 Dec 2022 8.22am)