If I'm right pikey, what you're saying is gypsy/traveller/romany = good, pikey = bad. In other words, a pikey is a bad gypsy/traveller/romany. Fair enough. But some people (and I'm not saying you're one of them) would apply the same logic to black or asian people . Ie, "bad" blacks/asians are n**gers/p*kis and good ones are just black or asian.

For me, a good rule of thumb is that if a group of people don't find a certain word offensive when applied by someone not from their community, then that word is ok. If they find it offensive from others, then it's not ok. I find it hard to believe many gypsies wouldn't find the term "pikey" offensive. Although when I first saw your username, I assumed you were a gypsy who was "reclaiming" a word which had been used as an insult, in the same way some blacks call each other "n**ger" and gays now refer to themselves as "queer".

Looking forward to meeting Bexter, and I think your sensible posts (although I don't agree with them all) are very....well...sensible!

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

lol

Edited by Penge Eagle (10 Jun 2004 4:14pm)

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

Seth,
Is it right that these people should sponge off of others?
Most of the "travellers" that I have seen and been affected by do not travel, they just exist paying no taxes, no national insurance, steal, threaten, con, etc etc.
You might change your view if they come and live in your back yard and " have the right to live on the fringe of society".
Calling them Pikeys is one way that people can get back at them; normal channels of complaint, ie the Police gets you nowhere mate.
Most blacks and asians I know are happy to pay their dues and I for one have no problem with them being here on that basis.

Loverman is a fcuking arsehole.

Most people who don't have a permanent address can't get a proper job, so have to make ends meet by doing whatever work they can. And lots of people from all communities steal, threaten, con etc. Some people call it "hustling". I think you'll find just as many thieves amongst "settled" communities as among travellers. When my car was done over, it was a w*nker up the road, not a gypsy.

I work in a school and have met lots of traveller kids, some of who were difficult, most were just like any other kid. Believe me, the worst people I have met live in houses or flats.

Edited by Seth (10 Jun 2004 4:32pm)

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

But that's because the proportion of pikeys to everyone else is tiny. Therefore, you're more likely to have met a worse "non-pikey" than pikey!! Even then, I'd disagree with you!

Trust me, I would. I'd spot the six fingers on their hand straight away. As for the smell...

Edited by Penge Eagle (10 Jun 2004 4:53pm)

I couldn't believe it when some pikies who were camped at Avery Hill Park, in Eltham, nicked our ball after it went over the fence while our footie team was playing a pre-season friendly last summer. We managed to get it back in the end. Then while we were getting changed, the little w***ers started to steal the goal-nets and corner flags!

Edited by Penge Eagle (10 Jun 2004 4:57pm)