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View wonder's Profile wonder Flag Madrid 18 May 17 2.37pm Send a Private Message to wonder Add wonder as a friend

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This bodes well for us.

I imagine this will mean players start informing the ref they dived when they receive decisions in their favour.

 

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View coulsdoneagle's Profile coulsdoneagle Flag London 18 May 17 3.05pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Good news for the sport and long overdue

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 May 17 3.33pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Ridiculous as a player who has not dived is often nevertheless booked for diving.

 

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View Charlie Croker's Profile Charlie Croker Flag Hampshire 18 May 17 3.36pm Send a Private Message to Charlie Croker Add Charlie Croker as a friend

Originally posted by wonder

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This bodes well for us.

I imagine this will mean players start informing the ref they dived when they receive decisions in their favour.

Sam's comments are right though - if you're only going to review incidents that result in a player winning a penalty or lead to an opponent being sent off, then those that are booked for simulation but were fouled and didn't get a pen are still penalised.

And let's not forget, if a pen was given & scored, or a sending off led to a win for the 11 players, those points and goals still stand, so any bans would have to be long enough to make the players think twice.

 


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View sa_eagle's Profile sa_eagle Flag Just outside Cape Town 18 May 17 4.10pm Send a Private Message to sa_eagle Add sa_eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Ridiculous as a player who has not dived is often nevertheless booked for diving.

Therein lies the problem, especially for Wilf who receives no protection from the officials despite being the single most fouled player this season.

 


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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 18 May 17 4.22pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

Good news for the sport and long overdue

I'd say it's bad news; Zaha will get a red for being hacked down on the occasions where the ref failed to give him a yellow, for supposed simulation, when he's clobbered. I anticipate we won't see him for more than half a dozen games next season.

 


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Plus I can't wait to sort this little bunch of Nancy boys next season:

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 18 May 17 4.53pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

Sam's comments are right though - if you're only going to review incidents that result in a player winning a penalty or lead to an opponent being sent off, then those that are booked for simulation but were fouled and didn't get a pen are still penalised.

And let's not forget, if a pen was given & scored, or a sending off led to a win for the 11 players, those points and goals still stand, so any bans would have to be long enough to make the players think twice.

I suppose not ideal but it will work both ways, yellow/red cards can be cleared on appeal but of course goals won't be. I think it's better to have something in place than nothing – seems to work to a good enough level in the scottish leagues (since 2011 apparently).

 


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View kenbarr's Profile kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 18 May 17 4.55pm Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

I agree with Big Sam. This is being done so that Sweet Fanny can say they are "doing something." Instead of doing something that is the easiest for them, why not do it right? No, not Sweet Fanny! The proper word for this is rubbish.

 


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View Daddyorc's Profile Daddyorc Flag Atlantic Highlands, NJ 18 May 17 4.55pm Send a Private Message to Daddyorc Add Daddyorc as a friend

They're clearly not going to suspend players who are touched but they don't think it was heavy enough.

This is to stop the Snodgrass kind of dive, where they weren't touched and go down like they were hacked to pieces. I remember when Pulis was in charge and Thomas and Ince did this. He was furious with them.

I welcome it!

 

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View PALACE FOR EVER's Profile PALACE FOR EVER Flag London 18 May 17 4.57pm Send a Private Message to PALACE FOR EVER Add PALACE FOR EVER as a friend

A problem I have is its not going to be equal at all matches.

Even in the PL, live matches have more cameras than others. As managers, players & fans love a moan there are bound to be situations where you can't tell but if there had been another camera somewhere else as in a live match you would of been able to tell better.

What will be interesting is, when a penalty was given but a dive took place but it started outside the penalty so a penalty shouldn't of been given on that reason so shouldn't be reviewed. Will the player still get banned? I presume the player will as that is the decision the ref gave at the time to give a penalty.


 


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View BarEagle's Profile BarEagle Flag Monmouth 18 May 17 5.00pm Send a Private Message to BarEagle Add BarEagle as a friend

Big Sam has hit the nail on the head.

I was not his biggest fan but his straight talking on this point is perfect.

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