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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 7.03pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Just seen this :

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Need to consider in detail before I form a judgement on the various proposals.

 

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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 17 Jun 17 7.25pm Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

Nice spot Willo
1. 30 minute halves with clock stops when the ball is dead.
2. Penalty kicks either score or not with no scoring from the rebound (like a penalty shoot out)
3. Penalty shoot outs change the order from ABAB to ABBA.
4. passing to yourself at a free-kick, corner and goal-kick
5. a stadium clock which stops and starts along with the referee's watch
6. allowing the goal-kick to be taken even if the ball is moving
7.a goal-kick being taken on the same side that the ball went out on
8. a "clearer and more consistent definition" of handball
9. a player who scores a goal or stops a goal with his hands gets a red card
10.a keeper who handles a backpass or throw-in from a team-mate concedes a penalty
11. the referee can award a goal if a player stops a goal being scored by handling on or close to the goal-line
12. referees can only blow for half-time or full-time when the ball goes out of play

I agree with 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11

For number 3, the winner takes it all I guess

Parrot

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 7.35pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

My immediate reaction is that with all the 'Timekeeping' changes, supporters would miss the last train home for night matches if they stayed until the end !

 

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View CPFC_1905's Profile CPFC_1905 Flag 17 Jun 17 7.40pm Send a Private Message to CPFC_1905 Add CPFC_1905 as a friend

Originally posted by MrCParrot

Nice spot Willo
1. 30 minute halves with clock stops when the ball is dead.

Not sure about this. How long could halves potentially last in comparison to a standard 45. If there are no 'dead balls' (goals, penalties, injuries,
subs etc.) what would 30 mins of football be like

2. Penalty kicks either score or not with no scoring from the rebound (like a penalty shoot out)

Like the sound of this

3. Penalty shoot outs change the order from ABAB to ABBA.

This too. Change the potential advantage.

4. passing to yourself at a free-kick, corner and goal-kick

This is being considered? Find it strange.

5. a stadium clock which stops and starts along with the referee's watch.

Kind of like rugby. Guess it could make point 1 better.

6. allowing the goal-kick to be taken even if the ball is moving

Nope.

7.a goal-kick being taken on the same side that the ball went out on

This is what I grew up on. Does it matter much?!

8. a "clearer and more consistent definition" of handball

Thought it was okay already. Below the shoulder, arm moving towards the ball, away from the body.

9. a player who scores a goal or stops a goal with his hands gets a red card

I thought this was already the case for stopping a goal?

10.a keeper who handles a backpass or throw-in from a team-mate concedes a penalty

Maybe better than the current red card rule.

11. the referee can award a goal if a player stops a goal being scored by handling on or close to the goal-line

YES!

12. referees can only blow for half-time or full-time when the ball goes out of play

Rugby-esque. That could add to the drama. I like that.


I agree with 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11

For number 3, the winner takes it all I guess

Parrot

The question is. How would this affect things like Sunday football, especially the time keeping? Would there be professional rules and amateur or development rules?

Edited by CPFC_1905 (17 Jun 2017 7.48pm)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 7.46pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC_1905

The question is. How would this affect things like Sunday football, especially the time keeping? Would there be professional rules and amateur or development rules?

Very good point.
I can see some park referees not being keen on stopping and starting their watches numerous times !
And many would be late for their Sunday lunch !

At the end of the day, there should always be considertion as to how to improve the game as a spectacle etc etc, but one has to be careful not to introduce too many changes which could alter the dynamic of the great game.

Going out soon - will give all of this consideration in the next couple of days.

Edited by Willo (17 Jun 2017 7.51pm)

 

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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 17 Jun 17 8.06pm Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

4. passing to yourself at a free-kick, corner and goal-kick4.

Wonder if Wilf can just pick himself up and keep going, he can't be challenged due to the 10 yard or does the ref stop the kick being taken quickly?

Parrot

 


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View PALACE FOR EVER's Profile PALACE FOR EVER Flag London 17 Jun 17 8.56pm Send a Private Message to PALACE FOR EVER Add PALACE FOR EVER as a friend

1. 30 minute halves with clock stops when the ball is dead.

No

2. Penalty kicks either score or not with no scoring from the rebound (like a penalty shoot out)

Yes - I presume they also mean own goals from post/bar will not be allowed.

3. Penalty shoot outs change the order from ABAB to ABBA.

Yes, as I have felt this before, the way Tie-breaks are in tennis.

4. passing to yourself at a free-kick, corner and goal-kick

No.

5. a stadium clock which stops and starts along with the referee's watch

No.

6. allowing the goal-kick to be taken even if the ball is moving

Not sure.

7.a goal-kick being taken on the same side that the ball went out on

No, the change hasn't caused any problems.

8. a "clearer and more consistent definition" of handball

No, Just keep it as it is, whatever it is there will be problems.

9. a player who scores a goal or stops a goal with his hands gets a red card

No, it just increases the problems if a ref gets it wrong.

10.a keeper who handles a backpass or throw-in from a team-mate concedes a penalty

No

11. the referee can award a goal if a player stops a goal being scored by handling on or close to the goal-line

Definitely not. Crossing the line is a goal, not perhaps or maybes.

12. referees can only blow for half-time or full-time when the ball goes out of play

Yes

 


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View m/k mick's Profile m/k mick Flag milton keynes 17 Jun 17 9.06pm Send a Private Message to m/k mick Add m/k mick as a friend

Most of this seems a tad unecessary to me, if people are cheating time wasting, let the ref sort it out, punish them they will soon get the message, one thing i personally would like stopped is the subs in the last ten minutes, easy to solve, on the 80th minute , no more subs allowed regardless, i pay to see 90minutes, and i get really p......d off when you have subs late in a game, designed to kill the game, when it could ,should be the most exciting period of a game

 

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View Bobtail's Profile Bobtail Flag Crowborough 17 Jun 17 9.48pm Send a Private Message to Bobtail Add Bobtail as a friend

I am opposed to any tinkering with the rules which will give MotD and Talks***e pundits more points to pontificate about.

 


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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 18 Jun 17 5.05pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Originally posted by Bobtail

I am opposed to any tinkering with the rules which will give MotD and Talks***e pundits more points to pontificate about.

Anything that speeds the game up in terms of the 'ball actually being in play' must surely be a good thing.

This is an area that has been severely eroded over the years as the price of supporting or watching football spirals in price!
One of the reasons why nearly all commentators of live matches have to talk such utter b*ll*cks!

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Jun 17 5.21pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Surprised nobody likes 7. Stop all those keepers wasting more time.

 


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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 19 Jun 17 2.22pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

1. 30 minute halves with clock stops when the ball is dead.
- NO
2. Penalty kicks either score or not with no scoring from the rebound (like a penalty shoot out)
- NO
3. Penalty shoot outs change the order from ABAB to ABBA.
- YES
4. passing to yourself at a free-kick, corner and goal-kick
- POSSIBLY.
5. a stadium clock which stops and starts along with the referee's watch
- NO
6. allowing the goal-kick to be taken even if the ball is moving
- YES
7.a goal-kick being taken on the same side that the ball went out on
- YES but not that bothered.
8. a "clearer and more consistent definition" of handball
- IS IT NEEDED? WILL IT HELP?
9. a player who scores a goal or stops a goal with his hands gets a red card
- YES but think this already happens
10.a keeper who handles a backpass or throw-in from a team-mate concedes a penalty
- NO
11. the referee can award a goal if a player stops a goal being scored by handling on or close to the goal-line
- NO
12. referees can only blow for half-time or full-time when the ball goes out of play
- NO but may be interesting to see.

 


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