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 Jacey  12 Mar 18 9.58am |
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What a difference Coleman has made with Sunderland losing yet again on Saturday,being firmly rooted at the bottom of the table and again suffering yet another injury to our Johnny.
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| Lakeview Lincoln 12 Mar 18 10.09am |
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Maybe it was bravery (if not, then arrogance) to believe he could achieve what others have failed to do in recent years. Sunderland have far greater potential and heritage than most of the struggling clubs around them, but they are just one more example of how status is not permanent in football and parachute payments and good crowds often don't save clubs in decline. Similarly, Pullis going to Boro was questioned by some, but they too could rise or sink depending on investment and desire. The unpredictability of relegated clubs' fate is another thing that makes this country's football fascinating.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 18 10.15am |
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Originally posted by Jacey
What a difference Coleman has made with Sunderland losing yet again on Saturday,being firmly rooted at the bottom of the table and again suffering yet another injury to our Johnny. Coleman joined when they were bottom and after 19 PL games they are still bottom. The only players he has been able to sign are 'Loanees' and a free agent.Thought he might hang around for the Swansea job as they were struggling and the chances were they would make a change but in November he took on the really tough job at Sunderland.Swansea replaced their manager in December. Despite their parlous position they have been getting crowds of 27/28,000.We certainly wouldn't getting anything like that number if we were in their position.
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 12 Mar 18 10.29am |
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Originally posted by Willo
... Despite their parlous position they have been getting crowds of 27/28,000.We certainly wouldn't getting anything like that number if we were in their position. They have over 22,000 season ticket holders, which is pretty impressive but if they include all season ticket holders in the attendance figures then the real number is probably a lot lower although impressive considering their predicament. The advantage of being a one club city.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 18 10.34am |
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Originally posted by topcat
They have over 22,000 season ticket holders, which is pretty impressive but if they include all season ticket holders in the attendance figures then the real number is probably a lot lower although impressive considering their predicament. The advantage of being a one club city. Middlesbrough are a one-club city but they don't enjoy the same support as Sunderland, getting around 23,000 and they are challenging for promotion.But both Newcastle and Sunderland have always been bigger clubs than Middlesbrough.
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 12 Mar 18 10.45am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Middlesbrough are a one-club city but they don't enjoy the same support as Sunderland, getting around 23,000 and they are challenging for promotion.But both Newcastle and Sunderland have always been bigger clubs than Middlesbrough. Isn't the Middlesbrough population half the that of Sunderland? If so, 23k is pretty decent.
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| matthau South Croydon 12 Mar 18 10.55am |
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The difference is of course, there's not much else to do up there. Also there is alot more unemployment. They can save together anything they can for a match ticket just like I do for the palace. But I have London on me doorstep, more employment opportunities which lead to a more varied social life. Times are changing down south, gyms and coffee shops are replacing back Street pubs, people are becoming more health conscious. It's kind of happening up north though not as much. Pub culture still exists in a big way.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 18 10.57am |
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Originally posted by topcat
Isn't the Middlesbrough population half the that of Sunderland? If so, 23k is pretty decent. I don't know the populations but certainly the North-East is a real hotbed of football. Middlesbrough's average attendance last season was around 30,000 which isn't bad for a team that got relegated. Edited by Willo (12 Mar 2018 11.00am)
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| Stuk Top half 12 Mar 18 2.42pm |
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Originally posted by Jacey
What a difference Coleman has made with Sunderland losing yet again on Saturday,being firmly rooted at the bottom of the table and again suffering yet another injury to our Johnny. I put my thoughts on that in this thread. [Link]
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| Stuk Top half 12 Mar 18 2.46pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I don't know the populations but certainly the North-East is a real hotbed of football. Middlesbrough's average attendance last season was around 30,000 which isn't bad for a team that got relegated. Edited by Willo (12 Mar 2018 11.00am) It's also not a hotbed for absolutely anything else. Sunderland have chose to close their upper tier to home fans now, as it'll save them stewarding costs. They had the foresight of calling this tier "the Premier concourse".
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| kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 12 Mar 18 3.04pm |
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thank god coleman didn't end up here.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 18 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
It's also not a hotbed for absolutely anything else. Sunderland have chose to close their upper tier to home fans now, as it'll save them stewarding costs. They had the foresight of calling this tier "the Premier concourse". Some of the stands are two-tiered and some three-tiered.
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