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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 26 Feb 23 5.29pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

I seem to recall a while back a huge thing was made when we and another club registered zero shots on target in a game. It was Deena's a real anomaly and rare event.

For us this season it seems to be becoming a regular occurrence of not the norm. We huff and puff and rarely force a save from the opposition.

People talk about our skills but with no end product

We are not losing but will never win a game unless we can register a shot.

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 26 Feb 23 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

I would counter this by saying we outplayed a below par Liverpool side last night and did have 2/3 good opportunities to score. Mateta clearly lacking confidence in front of goal.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Feb 23 5.39pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Might just have been me but I remarked yesterday we seemed to be slowing down our own attacks. Our best chances to score came from nicking the ball off them close to their goal or set pieces.

I think we look a far better ‘footballing’ team then we have done for many a year however I often wonder whether the philosophy behind it has forgotten the thought to actually put the ball in the back of the net.

The amount of times we had the ball in advantageous positions yet turned back towards our own goal or played a pass allowing them to get back and position themselves only for it all to fade away was infuriating.

The words ‘clinical’ and ‘direct’ spring to mind in what is missing.

 


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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 26 Feb 23 5.49pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I would counter this by saying we outplayed a below par Liverpool side last night and did have 2/3 good opportunities to score. Mateta clearly lacking confidence in front of goal.

I don't say you're right or you're wrong, but it does seem that the inability of Mateta - and to much the same extent, Edouard - to score is increasingly being put down to lack of confidence. He missed a great chance to score from, I'd say, about seven yards. Yes, he hit the bar, but he missed. He didn't appear to be lacking confidence when he struck the ball. He simply missed.

 

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View Eaglehamster's Profile Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 26 Feb 23 5.57pm Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

It's the Benteke curse!

 


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View Hannes's Profile Hannes Flag Vienna 26 Feb 23 6.04pm Send a Private Message to Hannes Add Hannes as a friend

I rather think that in Mateta's case it's because of his lack of speed, especially in controlling the ball. He misses many of his chances because his shots are blocked or he is quickly surrounded by defenders. That is the main problem of players who perform well in other European leagues and move to the PL. Only a few can handle the higher tempo. Also, as a striker you have more chances in one game in the other leagues than in five in the PL.

 

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View HesHereHesThere's Profile HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 26 Feb 23 7.41pm Send a Private Message to HesHereHesThere Add HesHereHesThere as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I would counter this by saying we outplayed a below par Liverpool side last night and did have 2/3 good opportunities to score. Mateta clearly lacking confidence in front of goal.

Not sure he's lacking confidence - he's just sh*t

 

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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 26 Feb 23 9.12pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Might just have been me but I remarked yesterday we seemed to be slowing down our own attacks. Our best chances to score came from nicking the ball off them close to their goal or set pieces.

I think we look a far better ‘footballing’ team then we have done for many a year however I often wonder whether the philosophy behind it has forgotten the thought to actually put the ball in the back of the net.

The amount of times we had the ball in advantageous positions yet turned back towards our own goal or played a pass allowing them to get back and position themselves only for it all to fade away was infuriating.

The words ‘clinical’ and ‘direct’ spring to mind in what is missing.

Yep. The numbers support it. We have the two most fouled players in the Premier League this season. Zaha and Ayew. Eze and Olise are 16th and 18th. Having 4 in the top 18 is ridiculous, law of averages says we should have 1.

In terms of successful dribbles, Zaha is 4th. Eze is 3rd. Ayew is 15th, behind Olise in 11th.

Firstly, if we have 4 players in the top 15, we aren't moving the ball fast enough. Dribbling is going to slow us down and allow the opposition to get set. Arsenal and Newcastle are the only teams with 2 players in the top 15 so we are a huge outlier. Numbers are here: [Link]

Secondly, Ayew gets fouled way too many times for the number of dribbles he completes. Reason? He wants to be fouled. Doesn't have the confidence to take a player on, would rather slow the game down, create some friction, buy a foul.

We need more one touch, quick passing. We need less dribbling and looking for fouls against a defence we've allowed to get set.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Feb 23 9.37pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ambrose7

Yep. The numbers support it. We have the two most fouled players in the Premier League this season. Zaha and Ayew. Eze and Olise are 16th and 18th. Having 4 in the top 18 is ridiculous, law of averages says we should have 1.

In terms of successful dribbles, Zaha is 4th. Eze is 3rd. Ayew is 15th, behind Olise in 11th.

Firstly, if we have 4 players in the top 15, we aren't moving the ball fast enough. Dribbling is going to slow us down and allow the opposition to get set. Arsenal and Newcastle are the only teams with 2 players in the top 15 so we are a huge outlier. Numbers are here: [Link]

Secondly, Ayew gets fouled way too many times for the number of dribbles he completes. Reason? He wants to be fouled. Doesn't have the confidence to take a player on, would rather slow the game down, create some friction, buy a foul.

We need more one touch, quick passing. We need less dribbling and looking for fouls against a defence we've allowed to get set.

What is a "successful dribble"?
Whatever it is we have four players with more of them than the £100m Jack Grealish.

 

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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 26 Feb 23 9.55pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

What is a "successful dribble"?
Whatever it is we have four players with more of them than the £100m Jack Grealish.

"A successful dribble means the player beats the defender while retaining possession, unsuccessful ones are where the dribbler is tackled."

Whilst we're beating one player with a dribble, others are beating far more with a pass.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Feb 23 11.23pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ambrose7

"A successful dribble means the player beats the defender while retaining possession, unsuccessful ones are where the dribbler is tackled."

Whilst we're beating one player with a dribble, others are beating far more with a pass.

So if he beats two defenders does that count as two dribbles?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Feb 23 11.40pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

In our last 3 Home games we have only registered 2 attempts on target.
1 of those was the Tomkins goal against Brighton, presented to him on a plate.
This was the only goal in our last 3 home matches.

The possession in our last 3 home games is 36%, 25% and 39%.

The above games were against Liverpool, Brighton and Newcastle and there will be those who will be of the opinion that 3 draws against these teams are creditable results.

Edited by Willo (26 Feb 2023 11.52pm)

 

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