Yes I agree with you I'm surprised at some of them.. Trevor Francis for example I'm shocked to see in joint 9th... My memories of his tenure is seeing us play some of the worst football I've seen..

I'm also surprised not to see Steve Bruce on that list.. Or was it that he managed us for less than 20 games??... My memory isn't what it uses to be!!

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

That's interesting, but I think there is such a vast difference between managing Palace in the top flight and in the second that my mind instantly begins trying to split the list into those two categories. That becomes extremely complicated given a few names on the list managed us in both divisions of course (some in three I believe?).

If we were being really clever we could compare points won to money spent, though we'd need to adjust for inflation somehow, and would perhaps be better off comparing points won to squad value, as some of our best players have been those we paid little or nothing for, whilst some of our better managers have had to pick the bones out of expensive mistakes made before they arrived.

In other words, establishing who our best managers have been is probably beyond maths and science, and very much a subjective call. Which is exactly how it should be I'd reckon, though your table will doubtless be cited as Exhibit A in a good few discussions!

I do not remember Graham or Rowe, but the unordered top four have to be Head, Venables, Coppell and Pulis, in my estimation