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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Flag Kent 05 Jan 24 9.49pm Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Just finished watching the ITV series and could not believe what I was seeing- a true story about The Post Office and it’s faulty IT system, Horizon, causing losses which they then blamed the sub-postmasters for leading to many being wrongly convicted, sent to prison, a number committing suicide and hundreds losing their homes and businesses. The cover up conducted by The Post Office is staggering and it seems the Government turned a blind eye.

If you have not seen this then definitely worth a watch.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Jan 24 10.21pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Just finished watching the ITV series and could not believe what I was seeing- a true story about The Post Office and it’s faulty IT system, Horizon, causing losses which they then blamed the sub-postmasters for leading to many being wrongly convicted, sent to prison, a number committing suicide and hundreds losing their homes and businesses. The cover up conducted by The Post Office is staggering and it seems the Government turned a blind eye.

If you have not seen this then definitely worth a watch.

Honestly Eden, even with my scant knowledge/understanding it sounds too infuriating to sit through!

That's where my hesitation is but the whole thing, even at the time, seemed so appalling. Sounds like the series reflects this.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 05 Jan 24 11.00pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Post Office now under criminal investigation.

About time too.

 

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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Flag Kent 06 Jan 24 7.08am Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Paula Vennells who was CEO of the Post Office during a large part of this period was incredibly given a CBE in 2019 for services to the Post Office and to charity!

Hopefully the criminal investigation will lead to some prosecutions of the senior PO management who knew the issue was with the IT system but they still continued to blame and prosecute the postmasters.

 

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View cardiff eagle's Profile cardiff eagle Flag 06 Jan 24 7.59am Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

Had an ex colleague who had to drop out of university and work multiple jobs to help his family after they fell victim to this. It’s an absolute disgrace.

Should also be some learning in there for us as we look towards AI for the future- systems are not infallible so we need to take proper care.

Edited by cardiff eagle (06 Jan 2024 7.59am)

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 06 Jan 24 8.14am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Paula Vennells who was CEO of the Post Office during a large part of this period was incredibly given a CBE in 2019 for services to the Post Office and to charity!

Hopefully the criminal investigation will lead to some prosecutions of the senior PO management who knew the issue was with the IT system but they still continued to blame and prosecute the postmasters.

As if the situation couldn't have been worse for those innocently accused and convicted. The leadership of the Post Office was rewarded for her Stewardship with a CBE.
Those innocent Postmasters had their lives destroyed and this totally culpable person will, no doubt, keep hold of her gong.

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 06 Jan 24 8.22am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Paula Vennells who was CEO of the Post Office during a large part of this period was incredibly given a CBE in 2019 for services to the Post Office and to charity!

Hopefully the criminal investigation will lead to some prosecutions of the senior PO management who knew the issue was with the IT system but they still continued to blame and prosecute the postmasters.

It was Adam Crozier who was there all the way to 2010 but who has escaped a mention in the series because his next job was head of ITV and they produced this programme.
Shame on ITV for not being honest.
He should shoulder the majority of the blame and I hope that he gets done in the new criminal investigation.
it is a disgraceful episode of time under a Labour and then Tory Goverment.
Labour introduced Horizon and the Tories perpetuated the lie.
Just awful and top brass should be in jail.
Rant over.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Jan 24 11.55am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

I'm keen to watch this, but last night I was too busy binge watching Michelle Keegan in Fool Me Once on NETFLIX.

 

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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Flag Kent 07 Jan 24 6.05pm Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

The petition to strip Vennells of her CBE is approaching 1 million.

38degrees.org

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Jan 24 6.51pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

No win no fee wins again but not for a lot of these sub postmasters.
Their compo payouts got absolutely rinsed and they got back a pittance of what they were allocated. I thought it was a % of a win and a sensible one but obs not.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 07 Jan 24 7.00pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

I watched all of this programme, and some subsequent interviews with Alan Bates and some of the postmasters affected, and it appears to be a very accurate reflection of what happened, and without inaccuracies.

It's an absolute scandal the way the post office treated these people, and as far as I'm concerned senior management need to go to prison for what they have done.

They not only caused and covered up what happened, but were judge, jury and executioner in the way they accused the postmasters and wrongly demanded money with menaces from them.

 

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Answer's on a postcard

 

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