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View leejaneagles's Profile leejaneagles Flag 11 Apr 17 2.59pm Send a Private Message to leejaneagles Add leejaneagles as a friend

I've just seen a post in a different topic about Palace finishing in the top 10, where someone has said it probably won't happen because we can't play the way we did against Arsenal every time as the players will tire.

This is something I have often thought over the last few years and does measure up well with all our seasons in the top flight so far.

We don't seem capable of playing a successful style of football without near killing ourselves for any win.

Watching Townsend run up one wing, across the box and then down the other to win a ball back is inspiring and incredible to watch and it exactly what we need in a relegation fight. But we couldn't do that for a whole season.

The flip side, if Townsend sticks to his winger position and doesn't get back, we lose every game.

Is there a way we can 'do a Leicester' next season by changing the way we play? I'm not saying win the league but there's no doubt if we could keep the same determination and results going we could finish in Europe. Trouble is, it does seem impossible to maintain the current intensity.

I'm trying to work out the differences between Leicester and Palace that allowed them to sustain it. I think the key was Vardy having freak stamina. The second would be having midfielders that can hold onto the ball for a long while and give Mahrez a bit of a breather on the wing.

I think Palace are set to be able to repliate this with the likes of Luka and Cabaye but unfortunately it would have to mean the end of Puncheon if our midfield had to take the pressure off Wilf.

It's not really anything to worry about, it's certainly not a complaint and I'm loving how we are playing at the moment, I just wish the players were robots so they could maintain this intensity and win the league next season!

 

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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 11 Apr 17 3.14pm Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

We won't do a Leicester and we will not qualify for Europe.

But if we let Steve and Sam carry on with improving everything slowly we should be fine.

Take each game as it comes and keep clean sheets.

 


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View leejaneagles's Profile leejaneagles Flag 11 Apr 17 3.21pm Send a Private Message to leejaneagles Add leejaneagles as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

We won't do a Leicester and we will not qualify for Europe.

But if we let Steve and Sam carry on with improving everything slowly we should be fine.

Take each game as it comes and keep clean sheets.

I guess what I'm saying then is whilst I agree, at the moment those clean-sheets are coming when every player is putting in 100% effort for 90 minutes.

Should that always be the case? Yes. Is it usually? No. At certain points in a season, some players will be at 70% and some will be higher but maybe not many at 100% consistently.

For most teams, this seems to be okay, they still pick up the odd point here and there in games they probably don't deserve to.

For us, if 10 of our 11 break their backs for 90 minutes but our right back for example decides to have an average game, we tend to ship 3 goals.

There must be a tactic, formation or subtle tweak that allows for a below-par performance and still potentially get something from a game.

Every man last night was man of the match, as they were against Chelsea. That's unlikely to happen usually.

Edited by leejaneagles (11 Apr 2017 3.21pm)

 

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View zoose's Profile zoose Flag London 11 Apr 17 3.57pm Send a Private Message to zoose Add zoose as a friend

Wasn't that Pardew's strategy at the beginning of this season, to mature the way we play? Didn't exactly work out, though had he not been such a bellend and sold Jedinak without replacement, then who knows.

 

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View Mad4palace's Profile Mad4palace Flag 11 Apr 17 4.19pm Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Originally posted by zoose

Wasn't that Pardew's strategy at the beginning of this season, to mature the way we play? Didn't exactly work out, though had he not been such a bellend and sold Jedinak without replacement, then who knows.

He wanted us to become a more possession based side, then he didn't buy any midfielders... Genius.

 

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View Gooner101's Profile Gooner101 11 Apr 17 4.26pm Send a Private Message to Gooner101 Add Gooner101 as a friend

I think the main thing for any high league position is defending well. If you continue to defend well, you'll finish up high. Boro this season is a freak exception, but even they were outside the relegation zone until Chambers got injured, so it's still valid. Big Sam will have you in top 10 easily next season. Europe is a stretch but if you're stable for 2-3 seasons, you'll be in a position to clinch it. Leicester are a freak exception as well, it's not likely to happen again.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Apr 17 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mad4palace

He wanted us to become a more possession based side, then he didn't buy any midfielders... Genius.

Good strategic planning involves asking yourselves key questions.

Where are we now?

Where do we want to be?

How are we going to get there?

Pardew ignored 3 and possibly 1. Parish should've asked all 3 before extending the contract. He must've done before being in football and to potential managers.

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 11 Apr 17 6.09pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Make sakho permanent and replace puncheon. That's the smartest thing we could do.

 

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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 11 Apr 17 6.35pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Originally posted by leejaneagles

I guess what I'm saying then is whilst I agree, at the moment those clean-sheets are coming when every player is putting in 100% effort for 90 minutes.

Should that always be the case? Yes. Is it usually? No. At certain points in a season, some players will be at 70% and some will be higher but maybe not many at 100% consistently.

For most teams, this seems to be okay, they still pick up the odd point here and there in games they probably don't deserve to.

For us, if 10 of our 11 break their backs for 90 minutes but our right back for example decides to have an average game, we tend to ship 3 goals.

There must be a tactic, formation or subtle tweak that allows for a below-par performance and still potentially get something from a game.

Every man last night was man of the match, as they were against Chelsea. That's unlikely to happen usually.

Edited by leejaneagles (11 Apr 2017 3.21pm)


I just think mis management and that led to confidence issues. Other than that this team are a top ten side.

We just need more strength in depth. European is never beyond the realms of possibility when you have players like benteke and cabaye... Wilf etc.

 

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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 11 Apr 17 6.37pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Make sakho permanent and replace puncheon. That's the smartest thing we could do.

Buy another striker as back up and another dm as military won't last all season... Flaming will be off close season I'm sure.

Improve on ward and make ward squad player creating that depth we so badly need.

Oh. And buy David silva of course

 

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View Podyonkers's Profile Podyonkers Flag Atlanta, Georgia 11 Apr 17 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Podyonkers Add Podyonkers as a friend

Originally posted by leejaneagles

I've just seen a post in a different topic about Palace finishing in the top 10, where someone has said it probably won't happen because we can't play the way we did against Arsenal every time as the players will tire.

This is something I have often thought over the last few years and does measure up well with all our seasons in the top flight so far.

We don't seem capable of playing a successful style of football without near killing ourselves for any win.

Watching Townsend run up one wing, across the box and then down the other to win a ball back is inspiring and incredible to watch and it exactly what we need in a relegation fight. But we couldn't do that for a whole season.

The flip side, if Townsend sticks to his winger position and doesn't get back, we lose every game.

Is there a way we can 'do a Leicester' next season by changing the way we play? I'm not saying win the league but there's no doubt if we could keep the same determination and results going we could finish in Europe. Trouble is, it does seem impossible to maintain the current intensity.

I'm trying to work out the differences between Leicester and Palace that allowed them to sustain it. I think the key was Vardy having freak stamina. The second would be having midfielders that can hold onto the ball for a long while and give Mahrez a bit of a breather on the wing.

I think Palace are set to be able to repliate this with the likes of Luka and Cabaye but unfortunately it would have to mean the end of Puncheon if our midfield had to take the pressure off Wilf.

It's not really anything to worry about, it's certainly not a complaint and I'm loving how we are playing at the moment, I just wish the players were robots so they could maintain this intensity and win the league next season!

Just read this article that talks about this very thing. Sam's training methods and his adherence to detail are designed to help any player keep up this work rate for the full 90. I think this answers your question, actually. If it does, then we would not have to find a new way of playing - we will simply improve on what we are doing right now.

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