3-4-3 Do we have the players

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OneMax Maidstone 24 Jul 17 6.37am
The classical 3-4-3 format has been around for several decades. The main reason the 3-4-3 never become too widespread in use was the demanding nature of the formation. It requires players to be tactically astute. It requires them to have very complete skillsets. And last but far from least, is that it requires players to be at the top of their games physically. The lack of width puts enormous pressure on the wingbacks, while the 3-man press upfront requires a sustained level of coordination. I love to think we have the players but we are not Chelsea or Bayern Munich. [Link]
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Maidstone 24 Jul 17 6.37am

The classical 3-4-3 format has been around for several decades.
The main reason the 3-4-3 never become too widespread in use was the demanding nature of the formation. It requires players to be tactically astute. It requires them to have very complete skillsets. And last but far from least, is that it requires players to be at the top of their games physically. The lack of width puts enormous pressure on the wingbacks, while the 3-man press upfront requires a sustained level of coordination.
I love to think we have the players but we are not Chelsea or Bayern Munich.

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Dan89 Se25 24 Jul 17 6.47am
I would say that we need more players in, that we did if stayed with the 4141/433 of last season. We don't have a natural right wingback and now Sakho left instead of needing 1 cb, we now need 2. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 24 Jul 17 6.47am

I would say that we need more players in, that we did if stayed with the 4141/433 of last season. We don't have a natural right wingback and now Sakho left instead of needing 1 cb, we now need 2.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Jul 17 1.48pm
No, we don't have the central defenders, or suitable wing back candidates. Nor will we be able to attract them. I assume that the idea of 3-4-3 will only be applicable to games at teams roughly at, or below our ability; I can't see us playing 3-4-3 against any of the top 12 or so teams from last season. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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No, we don't have the central defenders, or suitable wing back candidates. Nor will we be able to attract them. I assume that the idea of 3-4-3 will only be applicable to games at teams roughly at, or below our ability; I can't see us playing 3-4-3 against any of the top 12 or so teams from last season.

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steven_t92 Orpington 24 Jul 17 2.03pm
I don't get where all the complaints come from. Yes we need a RWB and another good CB but the rest of the squad would be good enough. You don't need to be Bayern Munich to play 3-4-3. It is one of the only formations that allow us to plays to our best two players strengths (Wilf and Andros). Give it a chance, Frank will bring in the two minimum we need and then he'll upgrade the rest of the team with any money left. Hennessey Tomkins Dann (New CB) (New RWB) Milo Cabaye Van AAnholt Wilf Benteke Townsend
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Orpington 24 Jul 17 2.03pm

I don't get where all the complaints come from. Yes we need a RWB and another good CB but the rest of the squad would be good enough. You don't need to be Bayern Munich to play 3-4-3. It is one of the only formations that allow us to plays to our best two players strengths (Wilf and Andros).

Give it a chance, Frank will bring in the two minimum we need and then he'll upgrade the rest of the team with any money left.

Hennessey

Tomkins Dann (New CB)

(New RWB) Milo Cabaye Van AAnholt

Wilf Benteke Townsend

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Midlands Eagle 24 Jul 17 2.11pm
Originally posted by steven_t92 Give it a chance, Frank will bring in the two minimum we need and then he'll upgrade the rest of the team with any money left. Hennessey Tomkins Dann (New CB) (New RWB) Milo Cabaye Van AAnholt Wilf Benteke Townsend So you're suggesting that we will have a non playing captain then
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Originally posted by steven_t92

Give it a chance, Frank will bring in the two minimum we need and then he'll upgrade the rest of the team with any money left.

Hennessey

Tomkins Dann (New CB)

(New RWB) Milo Cabaye Van AAnholt

Wilf Benteke Townsend

So you're suggesting that we will have a non playing captain then

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Dan89 Se25 24 Jul 17 2.19pm
Unless we start being very active in the market, we certainly have got the squad to play this effectively. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 24 Jul 17 2.19pm

Unless we start being very active in the market, we certainly have got the squad to play this effectively.

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steven_t92 Orpington 24 Jul 17 2.25pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle So you're suggesting that we will have a non playing captain then We haven't had a playing captain for a few years, even Dann only lasted half a season - all be it because of injury but don't think he was getting back in ahead of Tomkins and Sakho.
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Orpington 24 Jul 17 2.25pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

So you're suggesting that we will have a non playing captain then

We haven't had a playing captain for a few years, even Dann only lasted half a season - all be it because of injury but don't think he was getting back in ahead of Tomkins and Sakho.

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steven_t92 Orpington 24 Jul 17 2.25pm
Originally posted by Dan89 Unless we start being very active in the market, we certainly have got the squad to play this effectively. What are we missing then? Except for a LCB and RWB we have everything else in my eyes.
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Orpington 24 Jul 17 2.25pm

Originally posted by Dan89

Unless we start being very active in the market, we certainly have got the squad to play this effectively.

What are we missing then? Except for a LCB and RWB we have everything else in my eyes.

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Dan89 Se25 24 Jul 17 2.29pm
Originally posted by steven_t92 What are we missing then? Except for a LCB and RWB we have everything else in my eyes. Gk- that can distribute with his feet Rcb- that can be comfortable if drawn into fullback position, also comfortable on the ball. Lcb- similar to Rcb Rwb- has to have great engine to get up and down the pitch and decent crosser. If we see Townsend in the forward role. We need 2 of these in case one injured. Back up striker- if Benteke injured. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 24 Jul 17 2.29pm

Originally posted by steven_t92

What are we missing then? Except for a LCB and RWB we have everything else in my eyes.

Gk- that can distribute with his feet
Rcb- that can be comfortable if drawn into fullback position, also comfortable on the ball.
Lcb- similar to Rcb
Rwb- has to have great engine to get up and down the pitch and decent crosser. If we see Townsend in the forward role. We need 2 of these in case one injured.

Back up striker- if Benteke injured.

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Eaglecoops CR3 24 Jul 17 2.57pm
Originally posted by steven_t92 I don't get where all the complaints come from. Yes we need a RWB and another good CB but the rest of the squad would be good enough. You don't need to be Bayern Munich to play 3-4-3. It is one of the only formations that allow us to plays to our best two players strengths (Wilf and Andros). Give it a chance, Frank will bring in the two minimum we need and then he'll upgrade the rest of the team with any money left. Hennessey Tomkins Dann (New CB) (New RWB) Milo Cabaye Van AAnholt Wilf Benteke Townsend Thats the team I'd be picking for sure and I'm becoming more and more convinced that we should be concentrating our search for a decent RWB if Riedewald is definitely signing.
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CR3 24 Jul 17 2.57pm

Originally posted by steven_t92

Give it a chance, Frank will bring in the two minimum we need and then he'll upgrade the rest of the team with any money left.

Hennessey

Tomkins Dann (New CB)

(New RWB) Milo Cabaye Van AAnholt

Wilf Benteke Townsend

Thats the team I'd be picking for sure and I'm becoming more and more convinced that we should be concentrating our search for a decent RWB if Riedewald is definitely signing.

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steven_t92 Orpington 24 Jul 17 3.05pm
Originally posted by Dan89 Gk- that can distribute with his feet Rcb- that can be comfortable if drawn into fullback position, also comfortable on the ball. Lcb- similar to Rcb Rwb- has to have great engine to get up and down the pitch and decent crosser. If we see Townsend in the forward role. We need 2 of these in case one injured. Back up striker- if Benteke injured. So what you're actually saying is that we need to upgrade players we have, not that we can't play the system. Tomkins used to play RB for west ham and has played it for him, I have no worries about him playing RCB if fit.
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Orpington 24 Jul 17 3.05pm

Originally posted by Dan89

Back up striker- if Benteke injured.

So what you're actually saying is that we need to upgrade players we have, not that we can't play the system.

Tomkins used to play RB for west ham and has played it for him, I have no worries about him playing RCB if fit.

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Dan89 Se25 24 Jul 17 3.27pm
Originally posted by steven_t92 So what you're actually saying is that we need to upgrade players we have, not that we can't play the system. Tomkins used to play RB for west ham and has played it for him, I have no worries about him playing RCB if fit. Conte blueprint [Link] My opinion is that dann and Tomkins are to similar to be affective together. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 24 Jul 17 3.27pm

Originally posted by steven_t92

So what you're actually saying is that we need to upgrade players we have, not that we can't play the system.

Tomkins used to play RB for west ham and has played it for him, I have no worries about him playing RCB if fit.

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My opinion is that dann and Tomkins are to similar to be affective together.

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