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View dave64's Profile dave64 Flag madiera 07 Sep 17 9.40pm Send a Private Message to dave64 Add dave64 as a friend

I understand Parish and co took a long time interviewing managers before deciding on fdb .They must have fully understood his qualities and the style of play. The necessity for new players to fit in to this style. I would suggest he has been rather thrown to the wolves. not fully supported in transfer market. And when new style (as agreed and supported by parish)isn't immediately effective....parish throws him to the wolves.
take some responsibility for the shambles Mr Parish and co !!!!

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 08 Sep 17 10.09am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by dave64

I understand Parish and co took a long time interviewing managers before deciding on fdb .They must have fully understood his qualities and the style of play. The necessity for new players to fit in to this style. I would suggest he has been rather thrown to the wolves. not fully supported in transfer market. And when new style (as agreed and supported by parish)isn't immediately effective....parish throws him to the wolves.
take some responsibility for the shambles Mr Parish and co !!!!

To be fair his style of play in the past has been 433 which you would argue suites our players, and he talked about evolution not revolution. So our start must have taken AP a little by suprise. ..

 

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View victor43's Profile victor43 Flag St. Albans 08 Sep 17 10.13am Send a Private Message to victor43 Add victor43 as a friend

Originally posted by dave64

I understand Parish and co took a long time interviewing managers before deciding on fdb .They must have fully understood his qualities and the style of play. The necessity for new players to fit in to this style. I would suggest he has been rather thrown to the wolves. not fully supported in transfer market. And when new style (as agreed and supported by parish)isn't immediately effective....parish throws him to the wolves.
take some responsibility for the shambles Mr Parish and co !!!!

By 'taking some responsibility', what do you want Parish to do? Resign? I'm not sure how that would help tbh.

Some acknowledgement of things going wrong? He can't really speak out on that now as that is a complete admission of failure and throwing FDB under the bus. If Frank leaves we may get something though.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 Sep 17 10.17am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

To be fair his style of play in the past has been 433 which you would argue suites our players, and he talked about evolution not revolution. So our start must have taken AP a little by suprise. ..

That and we over £30 mil net and were prepared to spend over £10 mil on Niasse. It's not a lack of funds, 'or backing', which is a loose term and doesn't explain the situation or relationship.

What the op do if as an employer his employee went and changed his plans after getting the job to something the workplace doesn't suit? Would you throw the full £40 mil at it when you know it'll take £100 mil. We could've ended up with 9 CB's and 14 defenders and the manager without a clue as to how to make the transition or changeover.

 


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View bodge's Profile bodge Flag 08 Sep 17 2.59pm Send a Private Message to bodge Add bodge as a friend

The change in management every season is putting us behind the rest. SP can not buy players that a new manager might not want if we can keep the same manager we can be ready for the start of the season, however having only one striker is a big mistake FDB should have had a list of players he wanted it may be the case he did and we could not get them but either way its not good from the men in charge.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 08 Sep 17 4.07pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by dave64

I understand Parish and co took a long time interviewing managers before deciding on fdb .They must have fully understood his qualities and the style of play. The necessity for new players to fit in to this style. I would suggest he has been rather thrown to the wolves. not fully supported in transfer market. And when new style (as agreed and supported by parish)isn't immediately effective....parish throws him to the wolves.
take some responsibility for the shambles Mr Parish and co !!!!

Parish has to solely responsible for the sorry state we find ourselves in, his slowness in appointing a Manager after Sam left is just the tip of the iceberg, the lack of investment in new players after the shambles of last season when it was clear to most that the squad was not up to PL standards and needed a major overhaul. The insecurity within the club as a result of Manager turnover in the period of the last four and a bit seasons, dismal home records over the same period, inability to attract players or decent managers to show any interest in coming to the club, bad decisions on transfers in the past with a lot of them spending more time on treatment table that actually playing or they are just not PL standard, emphasis on expanding ground capacity which will be absolutely pointless unless we can consolidate our PL status, meddling in football matters without the necessary skills or expertise. It is true that SP ET-AL, did a lot in saving the club in 2010 but that is all in the past and its is now time for him to move on hand over to a better leader for the future wellbeing of the club.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 08 Sep 17 5.14pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Parish has to solely responsible for the sorry state we find ourselves in, his slowness in appointing a Manager after Sam left is just the tip of the iceberg, the lack of investment in new players after the shambles of last season when it was clear to most that the squad was not up to PL standards and needed a major overhaul. The insecurity within the club as a result of Manager turnover in the period of the last four and a bit seasons, dismal home records over the same period, inability to attract players or decent managers to show any interest in coming to the club, bad decisions on transfers in the past with a lot of them spending more time on treatment table that actually playing or they are just not PL standard, emphasis on expanding ground capacity which will be absolutely pointless unless we can consolidate our PL status, meddling in football matters without the necessary skills or expertise. It is true that SP ET-AL, did a lot in saving the club in 2010 but that is all in the past and its is now time for him to move on hand over to a better leader for the future wellbeing of the club.

Walking out of the play off at Wembley, I couldn't see us staying up the next season, but here we are 4 years later still there. I think Parish deserves a little credit for that at least.
I know it's not good enough for those who want success, but have no idea how to achieve it, except demanding we buy new players costing millions. Most on here couldn't run a bath, let alone a Premiership club, but it doesn't stop them complaining. The reality is, we are never ever going to be a big club, that is beyond most clubs now.
Just enjoy being in the Premier whilst it lasts, because it isn't going to last forever, as history shows for clubs our size.

Edited by Painter (08 Sep 2017 5.15pm)

Edited by Painter (08 Sep 2017 5.15pm)

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 08 Sep 17 5.58pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Walking out of the play off at Wembley, I couldn't see us staying up the next season, but here we are 4 years later still there. I think Parish deserves a little credit for that at least.
I know it's not good enough for those who want success, but have no idea how to achieve it, except demanding we buy new players costing millions. Most on here couldn't run a bath, let alone a Premiership club, but it doesn't stop them complaining. The reality is, we are never ever going to be a big club, that is beyond most clubs now.
Just enjoy being in the Premier whilst it lasts, because it isn't going to last forever, as history shows for clubs our size.

Edited by Painter (08 Sep 2017 5.15pm)

Edited by Painter (08 Sep 2017 5.15pm)

Because we lurched from one safe pair of hands to the next and paid through the nose to do it. Many of us could/would have appointed Pulis, Pardew, Allardyce at the times the club did.
The issue is Parish wanted to break the cycle and bring someone in that can build a team that is too good on the ball to be immediately sucked into a relegation battle. Then, it seems, along with many knicker wetting fans, he is panicking when we start badly. With the changes we have seen in a short space of time how did Parish think the early games were going to go?

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 08 Sep 17 6.23pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Because we lurched from one safe pair of hands to the next and paid through the nose to do it. Many of us could/would have appointed Pulis, Pardew, Allardyce at the times the club did.
The issue is Parish wanted to break the cycle and bring someone in that can build a team that is too good on the ball to be immediately sucked into a relegation battle. Then, it seems, along with many knicker wetting fans, he is panicking when we start badly. With the changes we have seen in a short space of time how did Parish think the early games were going to go?

It wasn't long ago, tables weren't produced until 6 games gone. Now after 3 games, you think we are in a relegation battle, a bit over dramatic with 35 games to go!

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 08 Sep 17 9.46pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Walking out of the play off at Wembley, I couldn't see us staying up the next season, but here we are 4 years later still there. I think Parish deserves a little credit for that at least.
I know it's not good enough for those who want success, but have no idea how to achieve it, except demanding we buy new players costing millions. Most on here couldn't run a bath, let alone a Premiership club, but it doesn't stop them complaining. The reality is, we are never ever going to be a big club, that is beyond most clubs now.
Just enjoy being in the Premier whilst it lasts, because it isn't going to last forever, as history shows for clubs our size.

Edited by Painter (08 Sep 2017 5.15pm)

Edited by Painter (08 Sep 2017 5.15pm)

Living in the past is just that, it is the future now, we should be more than capable living in the PL, just like Stoke and Southampton, bad leadership is what this is all about, the fact that Parish has promoted himself to a level of incompetence is his problem, live for the now not in history1

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 Sep 17 9.50pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

We need a proper experienced director of football and Parish to take notice of him.

Not Freedman.

Not a yes man.

 


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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 08 Sep 17 9.54pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

For five years in the top flight along with an FA Cup final ? Yes.

Rocky times at the moment but most of what's happened in the last five years has been pretty decent.

 

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