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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Dec 20 4.12pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Leaving the EU means the UK is leaving the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy (CAP).

The Agriculture Act 2020 Bill provides the legislative framework for replacement agricultural support schemes. It provides a range of powers to implement new approaches to farm payments and land management.

In England, farmers will be paid to produce ‘public goods’ such as environmental or animal welfare improvements. The Bill also includes wider measures, including on the agricultural supply chain and on the operation of agricultural markets.

UK soil contains about 10 billion tonnes of carbon, roughly equal to 80 years of annual
greenhouse gas emissions. Intensive agriculture has caused arable soils to lose 40 to
60% of their organic carbon, and the impacts of climate change pose further risks.

Worldwide, each year, an estimated 24 billion tonnes of fertile soil are lost due to erosion. That's 3.4 tonnes lost every year for every person on the planet.

If any of this concerns or interests you, a great place to start looking for positive answers is to view this call that I took part in yesterday. It is genuinely fascinating and covers a range of topics including your personal gut microbiome.

And by the way, encouraging certain gut bacteria will help you lose weight. Red wine can be a part of that process! You need to eat 30 different types of fruit and vegetables a week too though.

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I should warn you, the YouTube vid is over an hour long. It is absolutely brilliant if you care about your health, farming, the environment or just plain innovation.

Edited by Mapletree (08 Dec 2020 4.16pm)

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 08 Dec 20 4.19pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Leaving the EU means the UK is leaving the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy (CAP).

The Agriculture Act 2020 Bill provides the legislative framework for replacement agricultural support schemes. It provides a range of powers to implement new approaches to farm payments and land management.

In England, farmers will be paid to produce ‘public goods’ such as environmental or animal welfare improvements. The Bill also includes wider measures, including on the agricultural supply chain and on the operation of agricultural markets.

UK soil contains about 10 billion tonnes of carbon, roughly equal to 80 years of annual
greenhouse gas emissions. Intensive agriculture has caused arable soils to lose 40 to
60% of their organic carbon, and the impacts of climate change pose further risks.

Worldwide, each year, an estimated 24 billion tonnes of fertile soil are lost due to erosion. That's 3.4 tonnes lost every year for every person on the planet.

If any of this concerns or interests you, a great place to start looking for positive answers is to view this call that I took part in yesterday. It is genuinely fascinating and covers a range of topics including your personal gut microbiome.

And by the way, encouraging certain gut bacteria will help you lose weight. Red wine can be a part of that process! You need to eat 30 different types of fruit and vegetables a week too though.

[Link]

I should warn you, the YouTube vid is over an hour long. It is absolutely brilliant if you care about your health, farming, the environment or just plain innovation.

Edited by Mapletree (08 Dec 2020 4.16pm)

My mate is a farmer so I will watch and discuss with him but OMG 30 different fruit and veg, we’ll all be crapping through the eye of a needle for ever more.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Dec 20 4.24pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

My mate is a farmer so I will watch and discuss with him but OMG 30 different fruit and veg, we’ll all be crapping through the eye of a needle for ever more.

More likely laying some mighty logs my friend.

Does he farm around here? If so we likely know him.

This stuff is really important but nobody seems to be picking up on it at the moment. If we don't deal with soil erosion soon we is all fooked.

If we continue to degrade the soil at the rate we are now, the world could run out of topsoil in about 60 years, according to Maria-Helena Semedo of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization. We need topsoil to produce 95% of our food.

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

More likely laying some mighty logs my friend.

Does he farm around here? If so we likely know him.

This stuff is really important but nobody seems to be picking up on it at the moment. If we don't deal with soil erosion soon we is all fooked.

If we continue to degrade the soil at the rate we are now, the world could run out of topsoil in about 60 years, according to Maria-Helena Semedo of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization. We need topsoil to produce 95% of our food.

Soylent Green here we come.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Dec 20 4.55pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Soylent Green here we come.

I'll have a piece of leg please.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 08 Dec 20 5.06pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i could never understand how you could be at a rural restaurant serving New Zealand Lamb and all the while the view contained british lamb wandering the nearby field.

The economics of this is bonkers.

Consider a taxi charges a fortune to transport a drunk from Croydon to Upper Norwood. How the hell is it economical to transport meat from the other side of the Planet ? and all the while keeping it at the correct temperature.

British Lamb ? RiP

Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 Dec 2020 5.25pm)

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Soylent Green here we come.

Pity Charlton Heston, spoilt everything

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Dec 20 5.21pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

i could never understand how you could be at a rural restaurant serving New Zealand Lamb and all the while the view contained british lamb wandering the nearby field.

New Zealand lamb is very cheap. The farming methods are brutal and the quality poor compared to the UK but hey, did I say it's cheap?

Anyway, UK lamb is on the way out, going to become pretty rare. To the point where the blood is running out. Welsh hills will look very different in five years' time.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 08 Dec 20 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

More likely laying some mighty logs my friend.

Does he farm around here? If so we likely know him.

This stuff is really important but nobody seems to be picking up on it at the moment. If we don't deal with soil erosion soon we is all fooked.

If we continue to degrade the soil at the rate we are now, the world could run out of topsoil in about 60 years, according to Maria-Helena Semedo of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization. We need topsoil to produce 95% of our food.

We seemed to do ok with crop rotation for hundreds of years so I will watch that programme. I know oil seed reap has destroyed a lot of soil but I’ll wait to see what it has to say.

My mate is Woldingham area, but he grazes animals rather than growing crops. You have no idea how bad veg is for my stomach. Not recommended for me that’s for sure! I’ll have a go at more fruit though.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Dec 20 9.15pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

We seemed to do ok with crop rotation for hundreds of years so I will watch that programme. I know oil seed reap has destroyed a lot of soil but I’ll wait to see what it has to say.

My mate is Woldingham area, but he grazes animals rather than growing crops.

Yup. Also sells haylage if it's who I think it is.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Dec 20 9.26pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Yup. Also sells haylage if it's who I think it is.

Croydon 'haylage' 25 quid a bag.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 08 Dec 20 9.48pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

UK Farmers have been subsidised for far too long. EU Policy made it more viable not to use land (set-aside) than to actually produce stuff.
And the c-units don't even pay inheritance tax on their farms. They were massive money laundering systems

Now farmers are rushing to sell land for housing projects.

I shed no tears for farming folk.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (08 Dec 2020 9.49pm)

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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