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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 Oct 23 12.48am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Lots of words but very little substance, standard for politicians of all sides.

Non Dom tax, Labour seems to think that they can cancel this and all the non dom money will stay in UK and be taxed to raise 3 bn. This is naive at best or deliberately misleading at worst.

Clawing back COVID fraud and corruption, I am in general agreement with this but the vast majority of wasted money was organised crime setting up shell companies often from overseas, not a few despicable people taking the P. Trying to turn this into a political witch hunt will not produce results.

Labour can't resist trying to make any issue a " class war ".

I don't expect much in the way of actual policies until the pre election manifestos are published as is SOP for all sides.

The two party system is broken and we now IMO need PR to get more voices represented in parliament

 


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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 10 Oct 23 6.50am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

She is stating things that in a perfect world they would like to do and hoping that people will buy it.
She will wreck the place if they get in - not that we are not already aa basket case I might add!
Vat on school fees for example - the income will be completely swamped by the cost of suddenly trying to find 50,000+ state school places at short notice - waste of time and politics of envy.
Claiming back the covid fraud money - long gone and it will cost more to investigate than they will ever see back.
On a side note - I see that Starmer will rescind the Rwanda policy even if it gets through and works - more wasted money under Labour.
The list is endless but be aware that wealthy people (who Labour hate) generally make even more money under Labour than Tories - mainly because Labour hand out even more money than the Tories - and that is saying something!

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 10 Oct 23 7.28am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Labour is always going to root out fraud, root out tax avoidance and evasion (always, of course, wrongly insinuating that the corruption is all carried out by rich Tories) etc etc, but it never happens. While we're at it, how about claiming back all the money lost to benefit fraud, NHS treatment without entitlement etc? Funny; I don't remember her mentioning any of that, albeit that those would be impossible tasks too.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Oct 23 8.07am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Non Dom tax, Labour seems to think that they can cancel this and all the non dom money will stay in UK and be taxed to raise 3 bn. This is naive at best or deliberately misleading at worst.

This non dom tax has been going to pay for almost everything according to various Labour talking heads but the reality is that all the wealthy people with non dom status will just fook off elsewhere.

Labour have obviously forgotten what happened under Harold Wilson when the top earners were taxed so much that they just up sticks and emigrated to a very welcoming USA leaving us short of any worthwhile senior management

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Oct 23 8.21am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

This non dom tax has been going to pay for almost everything according to various Labour talking heads but the reality is that all the wealthy people with non dom status will just fook off elsewhere.

Labour have obviously forgotten what happened under Harold Wilson when the top earners were taxed so much that they just up sticks and emigrated to a very welcoming USA leaving us short of any worthwhile senior management

Hear Hear.

Rachel Reeves speech was a word salad of mind-numbing banality, treacle laden platitudes and a load of old pabulum.38 minutes of empty twaddle and not a single mention of "Inflation".

Without further ado I shall now return to the Football discussions.


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She reminds me of a character from Peppa Pig.

It is a deeply depressing thought that this is the alternative to the current government.

Unless Farage announces a new party, I probably won't vote.
I can't say I have warmed to Richard Tice.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 10 Oct 23 9.53am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

This non dom tax has been going to pay for almost everything according to various Labour talking heads but the reality is that all the wealthy people with non dom status will just fook off elsewhere.

Labour have obviously forgotten what happened under Harold Wilson when the top earners were taxed so much that they just up sticks and emigrated to a very welcoming USA leaving us short of any worthwhile senior management

It was widely (including in the House of Commons) referred to as 'The Brain Drain'.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

She reminds me of a character from Peppa Pig.

It is a deeply depressing thought that this is the alternative to the current government.

Unless Farage announces a new party, I probably won't vote.
I can't say I have warmed to Richard Tice.

I've often wondered what you get up to when not watching the Eagles or posting on HOL!

 


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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

This non dom tax has been going to pay for almost everything according to various Labour talking heads but the reality is that all the wealthy people with non dom status will just fook off elsewhere.

Labour have obviously forgotten what happened under Harold Wilson when the top earners were taxed so much that they just up sticks and emigrated to a very welcoming USA leaving us short of any worthwhile senior management

I have it on reasonable authority that large numbers of very wealthy individuals - non-dom or not - are positioning themselves to take everything out of the UK if Labour get in - and i mean everything!
The cost to the taxpayer will be eye watering.
The Caymens, Portugal and more will all see the wealth from here using their money over there.
I think the Bahamas as well.
Others here will know more places than me.
I seriously do not think that Labour realise the damage that they will cause just because it sits well with the left wing die hards.
Ordinary people like us will bear the brunt of this massive drain on tax coming in and very quickly as well.
If Rachel Reeves is any good - and she isn't - then she should already have worked it out and got these people onside.
It goes further though - no tax coming in but also wealthy people not spending their money in the UK as well - if you think it's bad now - just wait and see how much worse it will be!

 

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Originally posted by The Dolphin

She is stating things that in a perfect world they would like to do and hoping that people will buy it.
She will wreck the place if they get in - not that we are not already aa basket case I might add!
Vat on school fees for example - the income will be completely swamped by the cost of suddenly trying to find 50,000+ state school places at short notice - waste of time and politics of envy.
Claiming back the covid fraud money - long gone and it will cost more to investigate than they will ever see back.
On a side note - I see that Starmer will rescind the Rwanda policy even if it gets through and works - more wasted money under Labour.
The list is endless but be aware that wealthy people (who Labour hate) generally make even more money under Labour than Tories - mainly because Labour hand out even more money than the Tories - and that is saying something!

Anything Starmer says today is valid for one day

 


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Originally posted by YT

I've often wondered what you get up to when not watching the Eagles or posting on HOL!

I have three grand children. When you have watched 2 hours of Cocomelon, Peppa don't seem so bad.

 

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The level of lying that goes on is criminal.

 


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