Is patriotism a dangerous thing?

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

can you forgive little weak countries for being Xenophobic ? when they got big powerful neighbours with Aircraft carriers.

Ukraine, Taiwan, Tibet, Finland, Ireland etc ?

to answer the OP.....Patriotism all depends on the context. Sometimes ok, sometimes bad.

Globalism is ALWAYS shyte. It turns traditional communities into a Las Vegas Brothel...Sodom & Gomorrah. As happened to Cuba before the Revolution.

Globalism has destroyed the Balearic Islands indigenous culture....and replaced it with Disneyland. Costa del puke.

And when a Pacific Island gets a shiny new Naval Base, and the local men find all the local women being targeted by Sailors ? no comment.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 May 2023 11.28pm)

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

If you are currently Ukranian or Russian it most certainly is. However, if you are Scottish it's merely a financial contribution towards your Fuhrers luxurious camping holiday.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

Patriotism has certainly been betrayed in the west......unless it can be temporarily used for convenient purposes as you are seeing in Ukraine....the kind of people they use to slag off as neo Nazis and bigots they now cheer on.

The left, like they have with many concepts, instinctively deem anything actually positive for their in-group to be a negative with nationalism being seen as the largest evil. For example, they have no problem with patriotism or tribal pride for what they consider foreign or 'out-groups'. This is because they inversely deem them worthy or oppressed by the west. It is through this progressive infiltration and long march take over of the institutions that their ideology has been allowed to grow until it's now essentially all you are allowed to officially see as acceptable.

For example, those of you that grew up watching the BBC remember how the national anthem was played as it closed down for the night. That ended as the BBC went from small c conservative to increasingly progressive.....sometime on from the late eighties.

Nationalism has always been in reaction to something else and its expansion and inevitable growth is a reaction to the power and expansion of the far left who somewhat amusingly sometimes see themselves as the moderates. Demographic shift isn't going to increase social cohesion and the state and its activists are only going to become more authoritarian and persecute more. Personally I think none of this is heading in a sensible direction but since when have our leaders ever given a damn about the actual people their politics affect.....it's all about the donors baby.

I'm going to concentrate on what's best for my boy's future.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 May 2023 9.43am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Nothing wrong in being proud of one's country. It doesn't have to mean you are some Colonel blimp or knuckle dragging racist.

The problem we have in this country is we celebrate other people's patriotism but are embarrassed to celebrate our own.

One more point

Interesting replies and food for thought, i think Forest Hillbilly's views are similar to my own, i like to think of myself as a member of the human race, but i have just seen Roger Waters in Concert.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn