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Stirlingsays 10 Apr 13 7.15pm
Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 7.04pm Quote Well yes there was her racist speech about 'people being swamped by an alien culture', Well actually Thatcher expressed the view that people were afraid that they would be swamped by those of a different culture which is rather different from your statement. Indeed. Regardless, preferring your own perceived national culture to the perceived one of others doesn't make you a racist. A person's race isn't their culture. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Apr 13 7.15pm

Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 7.04pm

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Well yes there was her racist speech about 'people being swamped by an alien culture',

Well actually Thatcher expressed the view that people were afraid that they would be swamped by those of a different culture which is rather different from your statement.

Indeed.

Regardless, preferring your own perceived national culture to the perceived one of others doesn't make you a racist.

A person's race isn't their culture.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 13 7.17pm
Quote n What, not the Irish? Well, yes there was Bloody Sunday when 13 innocent Catholics were murdered in 1972, They are even blaming Thatcher for an incident which occurred before she came to power !
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South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 13 7.17pm

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What, not the Irish? Well, yes there was Bloody Sunday when 13 innocent Catholics were murdered in 1972,

They are even blaming Thatcher for an incident which occurred before she came to power !

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Kermit8 Hevon 10 Apr 13 7.17pm
Quote dannyh at 10 Apr 2013 6.58pm The reason the left hate her so much, is she made them realise how utterly stupid the left had become, and basically forced them to get rid of their ridiculous unsustainable socialist crap, and adopt a more "left of centre" noooo labour, that people would vote for and in doing so, made the Labour Party cut their socialist ties. I would also like to point out that I have called no one names, or insinuated that their viewpoint is dimwitted as it doesn't agree with their own warped sensitivities. I was however on the receiving end of the above from two people who should now better, proof if any where needed that the left, don't like home truths, have a very lop sided view of the world (at best), and at worse are blinkered and embittered as their own party has only offered a war criminal and a succession of idiots in response to Maggie's tenure at number 10. Edited by dannyh (10 Apr 2013 7.00pm) Makes a change. No. wait... that's Palace Talk Usually justifiable I may add. FFS If we can't fall out over Thatcher.... Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote dannyh at 10 Apr 2013 6.58pm

The reason the left hate her so much, is she made them realise how utterly stupid the left had become, and basically forced them to get rid of their ridiculous unsustainable socialist crap, and adopt a more "left of centre" noooo labour, that people would vote for and in doing so, made the Labour Party cut their socialist ties.

I would also like to point out that I have called no one names, or insinuated that their viewpoint is dimwitted as it doesn't agree with their own warped sensitivities.

I was however on the receiving end of the above from two people who should now better, proof if any where needed that the left, don't like home truths, have a very lop sided view of the world (at best), and at worse are blinkered and embittered as their own party has only offered a war criminal and a succession of idiots in response to Maggie's tenure at number 10.

Edited by dannyh (10 Apr 2013 7.00pm)

Makes a change. No. wait... that's Palace Talk Usually justifiable I may add.

FFS If we can't fall out over Thatcher....

Big chest and massive boobs

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Kermit8 Hevon 10 Apr 13 7.19pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 7.15pm Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 7.04pm Quote Well yes there was her racist speech about 'people being swamped by an alien culture', Well actually Thatcher expressed the view that people were afraid that they would be swamped by those of a different culture which is rather different from your statement. Indeed. Regardless, preferring your own perceived national culture to the perceived one of others doesn't make you a racist. A person's race isn't their culture. Practising Jews? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Well yes there was her racist speech about 'people being swamped by an alien culture',

Well actually Thatcher expressed the view that people were afraid that they would be swamped by those of a different culture which is rather different from your statement.

Indeed.

Regardless, preferring your own perceived national culture to the perceived one of others doesn't make you a racist.

A person's race isn't their culture.

Practising Jews?

Big chest and massive boobs

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 10 Apr 13 7.23pm
Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.17pm Quote dannyh at 10 Apr 2013 6.58pm The reason the left hate her so much, is she made them realise how utterly stupid the left had become, and basically forced them to get rid of their ridiculous unsustainable socialist crap, and adopt a more "left of centre" noooo labour, that people would vote for and in doing so, made the Labour Party cut their socialist ties. I would also like to point out that I have called no one names, or insinuated that their viewpoint is dimwitted as it doesn't agree with their own warped sensitivities. I was however on the receiving end of the above from two people who should now better, proof if any where needed that the left, don't like home truths, have a very lop sided view of the world (at best), and at worse are blinkered and embittered as their own party has only offered a war criminal and a succession of idiots in response to Maggie's tenure at number 10. Edited by dannyh (10 Apr 2013 7.00pm) Makes a change. No. wait... that's Palace Talk Usually justifiable I may add. FFS If we can't fall out over Thatcher.... I admit to becoming embroiled with the odd total and utter dick in Palace Talk. I wouldn't fall out with anyone over the great Mrs Thatch. She wasn't everyone's taste I accept that. What makes me piss is the utter hatred for a women who did what was required at the time, and lets face it what were the options at the time. Are we holding hands again "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 10 Apr 13 7.23pm

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Quote dannyh at 10 Apr 2013 6.58pm

I would also like to point out that I have called no one names, or insinuated that their viewpoint is dimwitted as it doesn't agree with their own warped sensitivities.

Edited by dannyh (10 Apr 2013 7.00pm)

Makes a change. No. wait... that's Palace Talk Usually justifiable I may add.

FFS If we can't fall out over Thatcher....

I admit to becoming embroiled with the odd total and utter dick in Palace Talk.

I wouldn't fall out with anyone over the great Mrs Thatch. She wasn't everyone's taste I accept that. What makes me piss is the utter hatred for a women who did what was required at the time, and lets face it what were the options at the time.

Are we holding hands again

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Apr 13 7.29pm
Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 6.51pm Thanks to Ray Sirotkin for this... It's true that Thatcher united the nation. Ok not Scotland Well alright Wales rejected her Toryism, but England stood with her. Well all right - not the north, in particualr Liverpool, but everyone else supported her. What? The mining communities oh,yes there was Yorkshire, Lancashire, Derbyshire, South Wales, Leicestershire, Durham, Staffordshire - but apart from that? What, not the Irish? Well, yes there was Bloody Sunday when 13 innocent Catholics were murdered in 1972, and the hunger strikes in 1981, but apart from that all of Britain was behind her... What - she encouraged bigotry against gay people? Well, there was Section 28, but apart from that she was very unifying? Well yes there was her racist speech about 'people being swamped by an alien culture', the inner city riots of 1981 and 1985, but she was a national figure after all and everyone loves her and she only carried out the war on Argentina because they were stupid enough to think the days of colonialism were over. So for all the pro-imperialist, homophobic, racist, mysoginists in society - she was a unifying figure. Nick - serious question. Why do you constantly post links and quotes from sources that are so utterly utterly biased they actually undermine your arguements and just give the impression that you have absolutely no thought, other than those that have been put there by someone else, of your own I doubt its your intention but its how it comes across As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Quote nickgusset at 10 Apr 2013 6.51pm

Thanks to Ray Sirotkin for this...

It's true that Thatcher united the nation.
Ok not Scotland
Well alright Wales rejected her Toryism, but England stood with her.
Well all right - not the north, in particualr Liverpool, but everyone else supported her.
What? The mining communities oh,yes there was Yorkshire, Lancashire, Derbyshire, South Wales, Leicestershire, Durham, Staffordshire - but apart from that?
What, not the Irish? Well, yes there was Bloody Sunday when 13 innocent Catholics were murdered in 1972, and the hunger strikes in 1981, but apart from that all of Britain was behind her...
What - she encouraged bigotry against gay people? Well, there was Section 28, but apart from that she was very unifying?
Well yes there was her racist speech about 'people being swamped by an alien culture', the inner city riots of 1981 and 1985, but she was a national figure after all and everyone loves her and she only carried out the war on Argentina because they were stupid enough to think the days of colonialism were over.
So for all the pro-imperialist, homophobic, racist, mysoginists in society - she was a unifying figure.

Nick - serious question.

Why do you constantly post links and quotes from sources that are so utterly utterly biased they actually undermine your arguements and just give the impression that you have absolutely no thought, other than those that have been put there by someone else, of your own

I doubt its your intention but its how it comes across

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Apr 13 7.30pm
Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.19pm Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 7.15pm Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 7.04pm Quote Well yes there was her racist speech about 'people being swamped by an alien culture', Well actually Thatcher expressed the view that people were afraid that they would be swamped by those of a different culture which is rather different from your statement. Indeed. Regardless, preferring your own perceived national culture to the perceived one of others doesn't make you a racist. A person's race isn't their culture. Practising Jews? The more they practice the better they are going to get... As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 10 Apr 13 7.30pm

Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.19pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 7.15pm

Quote Willo at 10 Apr 2013 7.04pm

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Well yes there was her racist speech about 'people being swamped by an alien culture',

Well actually Thatcher expressed the view that people were afraid that they would be swamped by those of a different culture which is rather different from your statement.

Indeed.

Regardless, preferring your own perceived national culture to the perceived one of others doesn't make you a racist.

A person's race isn't their culture.

Practising Jews?

The more they practice the better they are going to get...

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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Kermit8 Hevon 10 Apr 13 7.32pm
Quote dannyh at 10 Apr 2013 7.23pm Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.17pm Quote dannyh at 10 Apr 2013 6.58pm The reason the left hate her so much, is she made them realise how utterly stupid the left had become, and basically forced them to get rid of their ridiculous unsustainable socialist crap, and adopt a more "left of centre" noooo labour, that people would vote for and in doing so, made the Labour Party cut their socialist ties. I would also like to point out that I have called no one names, or insinuated that their viewpoint is dimwitted as it doesn't agree with their own warped sensitivities. I was however on the receiving end of the above from two people who should now better, proof if any where needed that the left, don't like home truths, have a very lop sided view of the world (at best), and at worse are blinkered and embittered as their own party has only offered a war criminal and a succession of idiots in response to Maggie's tenure at number 10. Edited by dannyh (10 Apr 2013 7.00pm) Makes a change. No. wait... that's Palace Talk Usually justifiable I may add. FFS If we can't fall out over Thatcher.... I admit to becoming embroiled with the odd total and utter dick in Palace Talk. I wouldn't fall out with anyone over the great Mrs Thatch. She wasn't everyone's taste I accept that. What makes me piss is the utter hatred for a women who did what was required at the time, and lets face it what were the options at the time. Are we holding hands again I do recognise that we needed someone as strong-willed and assertive as Mrs T in 1979 but not someone with her warped ideology. She was an extremely right wing politician keeping out a Labour party quite popular with the extreme left. Personally, I couldn't stand them both. We needed a Mrs T. But not her. We needed someone like her but with more social awareness. Gotta remember too that millions of kids suffered from her slash and burn policies. Casualties of an idealogue's war. I'll link pinkies but nothing else. Edited by Kermit8 (10 Apr 2013 7.33pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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I would also like to point out that I have called no one names, or insinuated that their viewpoint is dimwitted as it doesn't agree with their own warped sensitivities.

Edited by dannyh (10 Apr 2013 7.00pm)

Makes a change. No. wait... that's Palace Talk Usually justifiable I may add.

FFS If we can't fall out over Thatcher....

I admit to becoming embroiled with the odd total and utter dick in Palace Talk.

Are we holding hands again

I do recognise that we needed someone as strong-willed and assertive as Mrs T in 1979 but not someone with her warped ideology. She was an extremely right wing politician keeping out a Labour party quite popular with the extreme left. Personally, I couldn't stand them both.

We needed a Mrs T. But not her. We needed someone like her but with more social awareness. Gotta remember too that millions of kids suffered from her slash and burn policies. Casualties of an idealogue's war.

I'll link pinkies but nothing else.

Edited by Kermit8 (10 Apr 2013 7.33pm)

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Stirlingsays 10 Apr 13 7.32pm
Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.19pm Practising Jews? I don't really understand. Judaism is a religion not a race. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Apr 13 7.32pm

Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.19pm

Practising Jews?

I don't really understand.

Judaism is a religion not a race.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Kermit8 Hevon 10 Apr 13 7.34pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 7.32pm Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.19pm Practising Jews? I don't really understand. Judaism is a religion not a race. Which race do the Jews belong to then? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 10 Apr 13 7.34pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 7.32pm

Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.19pm

Practising Jews?

I don't really understand.

Judaism is a religion not a race.

Which race do the Jews belong to then?

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Stirlingsays 10 Apr 13 7.38pm
Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.34pm Which race do the Jews belong to then? The three thirty at Epsom. I think you're pretending to be a bit thick here. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Apr 13 7.38pm

Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.34pm

Which race do the Jews belong to then?

The three thirty at Epsom.

I think you're pretending to be a bit thick here.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Kermit8 Hevon 10 Apr 13 7.39pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 7.38pm Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.34pm Which race do the Jews belong to then? The three thirty at Epsom. I think you're pretending to be a bit thick here. Are the jewish people a race? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 10 Apr 13 7.39pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 10 Apr 2013 7.38pm

Quote Kermit8 at 10 Apr 2013 7.34pm

Which race do the Jews belong to then?

The three thirty at Epsom.

I think you're pretending to be a bit thick here.

Are the jewish people a race?

Big chest and massive boobs

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