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Quote Leicestershireeagle at 23 Feb 2014 1.23pm

"Banter" and abuse are sometimes part of it, but there's a line. Throwing coins is beyond stupid; it's dangerous, doesn't offer anything positive and only causes the club problems. Anyone throwing a coin needs to be banned, because quite frankly there are a lot of very good supporters around the ground that manage to support the team without throwing coins and acting like a Neanderthal. Idiots are to be expecting in all walks of life, but doesn't mean you have to put up with it.

Chants about Moyes' daughter are a bit tacky, but not necessarily deplorable to be honest; it's all a matter of taste.

Racist, xenophobic and chants about tragedies however, are the absolute lowest of the low. Unbelievably disgusting.

For all the good work done by our supporters, whether that be HF05 or not, it is completely undone at times by a small minority.


If they were close to the issue of rape as other's have suggested on here then they should be put into your category below this statement.

 


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Quote sxp55 at 23 Feb 2014 1.10pm

don't you know they're ultras??! they do what they want as long as they wear black. proper fans them...

The ultras are glorified hooligans. When I renew my season ticket I will relocate to the main stand - that's where the real fans are.

What have they done to be branded as 'hooligans'?

 

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Quote Goal Machine at 23 Feb 2014 2.10pm

Quote redpalace91 at 23 Feb 2014 1.43pm

Quote sxp55 at 23 Feb 2014 1.10pm

don't you know they're ultras??! they do what they want as long as they wear black. proper fans them...

The ultras are glorified hooligans. When I renew my season ticket I will relocate to the main stand - that's where the real fans are.

What have they done to be branded as 'hooligans'?

Check out the 'Portmanor Pub' thread.....

 


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Quote Booted Eagle at 23 Feb 2014 1.58pm

Quote Leicestershireeagle at 23 Feb 2014 1.23pm

"Banter" and abuse are sometimes part of it, but there's a line. Throwing coins is beyond stupid; it's dangerous, doesn't offer anything positive and only causes the club problems. Anyone throwing a coin needs to be banned, because quite frankly there are a lot of very good supporters around the ground that manage to support the team without throwing coins and acting like a Neanderthal. Idiots are to be expecting in all walks of life, but doesn't mean you have to put up with it.

Chants about Moyes' daughter are a bit tacky, but not necessarily deplorable to be honest; it's all a matter of taste.

Racist, xenophobic and chants about tragedies however, are the absolute lowest of the low. Unbelievably disgusting.

For all the good work done by our supporters, whether that be HF05 or not, it is completely undone at times by a small minority.


If they were close to the issue of rape as other's have suggested on here then they should be put into your category below this statement.

If so, then yes. It's hard however, to establish what was sung and what wasn't. Someone will hear one thing, someone else another.

I think disappointing is an understatement to be honest.

 


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The coins came from behind the group we know as the HF. Why do so many want to have a pop at them? I'm sure that in their number there will be some that are undesirable, but as a group of "hooligans" they don't appear to have too much on their CV. They sorted out the tifo and loads are quite happy to take credit for being great fans on here without putting in the effort on that with them, so much respect from me there. I know we all support in different ways and NO ONE is more important than anyone else, so let them support their way and you all can do it your way.
The abusing of the corner kicker is just a game played by those at the front to try and intimidate the kicker. Does it work who knows, but come on the guy is never in any real danger, because seriously if they wanted to would 4 stewards really be able to stop them getting at him?
The coin throwing is something that has crept into our game over the last 5 or so years. Walcott got coined this season, Suarez is coined on a regular basis, Drogba a couple of years back and many others. The thing that worries me is that every time there is someone who sees the culprit, it's impossible not to, but no one ever says anything, why?

 


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View Laboureagle's Profile Laboureagle Flag becknham 23 Feb 14 2.58pm Send a Private Message to Laboureagle Add Laboureagle as a friend

The songs about Moyes's daughter being a slut were disgraceful. Several hundred men chanting vile abuse at one young woman. Supposing she was in the ground, would you guys who sung such filth be proud at upsetting her?

Went to my 7 year old sons football match today, and one Dad who took his son yesterday, had had a terrible day. In the Aw behind a group of blokes who spent the whole game standing screaming abuse at the United fans and doing Munich impressions. His son didn't see any of the match. This is not ' banter ' .

 

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Expressing disgust at the coin throwing and the alleged plane gestures is perfectly understandable, and as mentioned before, people doing this should be banned. However, people complaining about the songs aimed at David moyes need to ask themselves why they're going to football matches if things like that upsets them. Its just football banter. If you don't like it then don't join in, no one is forcing you to.

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Quote EagleLegend97 at 23 Feb 2014 3.23pm

Expressing disgust at the coin throwing and the alleged plane gestures is perfectly understandable, and as mentioned before, people doing this should be banned. However, people complaining about the songs aimed at David moyes need to ask themselves why they're going to football matches if things like that upsets them. Its just football banter. If you don't like it then don't join in, no one is forcing you to.

Edited by EagleLegend97 (23 Feb 2014 3.23pm)

It's probably because we are being described as the 'best fans in the Premier league' by some within and without the club... but there are clearly differences as to what 'best' means... we have enough chants to go round without resorting to un-necessarily abusive chants...I doubt Moyes is particularly bothered, I bet he gets far worse when he goes to Anfield, although seems a bit pathetic to pick on his daughter...mind you some of our fans were having ago at Moxey's wife last year (very strange) so we are clearly 'blessed' with some guys with very small brains...I guess every club does, we just don't need to see people condoning their actions.

 

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View TomThePalaceFanatic's Profile TomThePalaceFanatic Flag 23 Feb 14 3.38pm Send a Private Message to TomThePalaceFanatic Add TomThePalaceFanatic as a friend

Some people on here are so precious.

Feeling sorry for Moyes and his daughter? Really?

 

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Quote TomThePalaceFanatic at 23 Feb 2014 3.38pm

Some people on here are so precious.

Feeling sorry for Moyes and his daughter? Really?


This.

There were one or two things out of order in the stand last night, that certainly wasn't one of them.

Edited by Kosowski (23 Feb 2014 3.49pm)

 


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Quote TomThePalaceFanatic at 23 Feb 2014 3.38pm

Some people on here are so precious.

Feeling sorry for Moyes and his daughter? Really?


I'm all for screaming abuse at the likes of Rooney, but Moyes' daughter should be left out of it. She's done nothing wrong. We should be backing our own team not spouting crap 'banter'.

 


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Quote TomThePalaceFanatic at 23 Feb 2014 3.38pm

Some people on here are so precious.

Feeling sorry for Moyes and his daughter? Really?


I'm all for screaming abuse at the likes of Rooney, but Moyes' daughter should be left out of it. She's done nothing wrong. We should be backing our own team not spouting crap 'banter'.

Sexist.

 


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