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View The Sash's Profile The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 26 Mar 14 12.27pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

If we go 4-4-2 I will eat my own Pancreas

It will be a dour, defensive set up with GM or Jerome getting scraps

 


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cornwalls palace Flag Torpoint 26 Mar 14 12.35pm

...whatever we do, we are going to be overrun.

 


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Quote Johnny Byrne at 25 Mar 2014 5.10pm

Have to say not impressed with central defence at Chelsea. Get some width in and two forwards attacking with pace and directness with just Jedi as DM and an AM (Bannan or Guediora) will give us more of a chance of creating goal scoring opportunities.

For me, Thomas and Bolasie out wide with Puncheon as impact sub. Puncheon drives me nuts, as he ALWAYS turns inside, apart from his cross for Jerome's goal before Xmas. Also, bit short on pace for me.

Chelsea react badly to being put under pressure so why not. Everyone expects a Chelsea win, and we are LONG OVERDUE a win against a top 8 side, so why not this Saturday.

Selhurst will be loud and we need to really help the lads out.

Doesn't matter what system is to be used against this lot. All their players are magic....

 

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Quote Johnny Byrne at 25 Mar 2014 5.10pm
Selhurst will be loud and we need to really help the lads out.

If we all stood in the holmesdale and blew out whenever Chelsea came running towards the goal at the Holmesdale end, it would have a greater change of puttig them off than 4-4-2., let alone a few rousing renditions of the postcode song.


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Quote cornwalls palace at 26 Mar 2014 12.35pm

...whatever we do, we are going to be overrun.

I think the idea is to limit that to occassionally, rather than everytime we try to pass the ball in midfield (Overrun generally would refer to creating space between your defensive lines that the opposition can exploit).

They only scored once at the bridge, I think we'll be hoping to do slightly better at home or the same.

 


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if you take out the Arsenal and Tottenham results, Chelsea haven't spent the season blowing teams away. In fact, against teams at the bottom end their record isn't a story of 4,5,6 goal wins. They drew with WBA twice, only beat Sunderland and us by the odd goal, lost to Villa and Stoke, drew with West Ham.

They seem to find it hard to break down teams who set up defensively and thrive on games where they can sit back and counter attack. Don't get me wrong, on most occasions they will still have the beating of us, but setting out to attack (although tempting from a romantic sense) would probably end in a drubbing, and I think goal difference will be worth an extra point this year (Sunderland -19 v Palace -20 at present)

 

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Time and time again, when big teams face other big teams, they pack the midfield, with one striker up top, to win the battle in midfield. That is key in English football.

To go one short in midfield (Chelsea will have 5 in midfield), would be suicide. It's all well and good thinking "one more striker to deal with and we'd be dangerous", but it doesn't work like that. Having two strikers is irrelevant when the midfield is being outfought and battled, particularly when the opposition is of a quality considerably higher than ours.

4231/451, with actual purpose counter-attacking, will be our best bet. We can't try and outplay Chelsea. Even Man City, with all their wealth and star players, switch from a 4222 to a 4231 when they face the more dangerous opponents.

 


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Quote adrian b at 26 Mar 2014 4.16pm

Quote Johnny Byrne at 25 Mar 2014 5.10pm

Have to say not impressed with central defence at Chelsea. Get some width in and two forwards attacking with pace and directness with just Jedi as DM and an AM (Bannan or Guediora) will give us more of a chance of creating goal scoring opportunities.

For me, Thomas and Bolasie out wide with Puncheon as impact sub. Puncheon drives me nuts, as he ALWAYS turns inside, apart from his cross for Jerome's goal before Xmas. Also, bit short on pace for me.

Chelsea react badly to being put under pressure so why not. Everyone expects a Chelsea win, and we are LONG OVERDUE a win against a top 8 side, so why not this Saturday.

Selhurst will be loud and we need to really help the lads out.

Doesn't matter what system is to be used against this lot. All their players are magic....

Yes it does and no they aren't.

Went to Fulham v Chelsea a couple of weeks back and Chelsea, apart from Hazard, were pretty average against an appallingly bad Fulham side. My Chelsea mate was calling for Schurrle to be subbed before he was allowed to waltz through their 'defence' 3 times.

Our defence is way better and if we keep Hazard quiet (which will be tough admittedly) then we have a chance. Chelsea even conceded a really poor goal from a corner.

Get the tactics right and we have a chance, we really do.

Edited by FinchleyEagle (27 Mar 2014 2.07pm)

 


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View Johnny Byrne's Profile Johnny Byrne Flag Pinner 27 Mar 14 8.54pm Send a Private Message to Johnny Byrne Add Johnny Byrne as a friend

Thanks for the views. I still think that the 4 games we have "no chance of a point in" - Everton and the 3 big guns at home, means we should take a chance and have a go. We are the only side in the bottom half without a win and just 1 point against any Top 8 side.

I agree we need 3 wins to give us a chance of safety, so perhaps we might as well go for it in every remaining game.

I do think though that away from home, a more defensive set up with counter attack is a better policy. This will work well I think against Cardiff, Spammers and Fulham, and strangely enough against Villa at home, as they are a decent away side who...counter attack.

 


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What is the best way to get a result?. Imo its do a West Ham defend for our lives and hope to get a goal on the break. 4 5 1.

 

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Quote bodge at 29 Mar 2014 9.35am

What is the best way to get a result?. Imo its do a West Ham defend for our lives and hope to get a goal on the break. 4 5 1.

Sadly whatever formation we use and tactics we deploy we will get beaten.
I really cannot see us avoiding relegation, indeed whatever our fate I believe Pulis will not be in charge next campaign.


 

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EastEndPalace Flag WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 29 Mar 14 9.57am

Chelsea beat teams when the play on the counter. We don't attack to often and they will have the lionshare which they do not like.

 

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