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Just wondering where all the fans have gone from last week and the week before?

If I remember correctly there were a number of people criticising pulis' tactics, saying he doesn't know what he's doing bla bla bla.

Anyone care to carry on or can we all just agree he has got it spot on once again.

Genius.

Where's that coffee shaker smilie.
One of the reasons we did ok yesterday was that Puncheon played very well, for more minutes than he usually does but then he does that against the bigger sides. Thought CJ had his best game too.
3 more points in a season where every game is hard.

Congratulation on your pointless s*** thread.


The point about Puncheon is one I was also going to make. Not a revolutionary change in how we were set up but at times Punch and Bolasie (before he clearly tired) were sublime. And Mariappa now is settling into his rople well

But for goodness sake why slate the OP? This is a debate forum.


Because he was talking nonsense along with his appended others and for exactly the reason that this is a debate forum.

We don't hold hands and dance around trees looking for consensus.

 


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Hoof Hearted 30 Mar 14 11.50am

Quote Stirlingsays at 30 Mar 2014 11.45am

Quote Mapletree at 30 Mar 2014 11.30am

Quote Boooo at 30 Mar 2014 9.21am

Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 7.09pm

Just wondering where all the fans have gone from last week and the week before?

If I remember correctly there were a number of people criticising pulis' tactics, saying he doesn't know what he's doing bla bla bla.

Anyone care to carry on or can we all just agree he has got it spot on once again.

Genius.

Where's that coffee shaker smilie.
One of the reasons we did ok yesterday was that Puncheon played very well, for more minutes than he usually does but then he does that against the bigger sides. Thought CJ had his best game too.
3 more points in a season where every game is hard.

Congratulation on your pointless s*** thread.


The point about Puncheon is one I was also going to make. Not a revolutionary change in how we were set up but at times Punch and Bolasie (before he clearly tired) were sublime. And Mariappa now is settling into his rople well

But for goodness sake why slate the OP? This is a debate forum.


Because he was talking nonsense along with his appended others and for exactly the reason that this is a debate forum.

We don't hold hands and dance around trees looking for consensus.


He still has the right to voice his opinion though Stirling.

 

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Quote IMpalace at 30 Mar 2014 10.55am

Quote Dangermouse at 29 Mar 2014 9.53pm

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Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 7.09pm

Just wondering where all the fans have gone from last week and the week before?

If I remember correctly there were a number of people criticising pulis' tactics, saying he doesn't know what he's doing bla bla bla.

Anyone care to carry on or can we all just agree he has got it spot on once again.

Genius.


I'm still here.
Changed tactics today, he actually set the team up to win. So if he gets it right, he gets praise, if he gets it wrong he doesn't. Seems fair to me.

You'll disagree but your completely wrong. He's gone with the same tactics he always has which is to make defending and being solid the priority and hitting them on the counter attack.

When holloway or anyone else for the matter could of got this palace team to get 3 points against the league leaders then let me know.

He is a tactical Genious end of and he proved that today.


Really. Both full backs got forward today as did both wingers. Jedi gave the ball away far less today, because he actually had some forward passes he could make and the players are also getting more familiar with the set up which frees the mind to do what comes naturally, rather than always thinking about positions. We counter attacked with a real speed and purpose and actually tried to pass it around at times rather than just hoof it. TP also did a Ollie and kept telling them to push up and encouraged them to run with it and take the game to them. In the previous five games he did not do this, so clearly somethings were different.

1) Chelsea wingers were obviously told to stand off full backs or were too lazy to track so they had time on the ball. They got forward when they could, as they have done every week.


2) Jedi gave the ball away a lot in the first half, as much if not more than normal.

3) 95% of our counter attacking was a result of Chelsea throwing people forward and playing a high line once 1-0 down.

The tactics were identical today, the difference is they worked.


Edited by IMpalace (30 Mar 2014 10.55am)


That's why it's called a counter attack, if they're all back we really can't counter. The difference yesterday was we did it with pace, numbers and a purpose.
The fullbacks have hardly got over halfway in recent matches and Jedi was far less wasteful and nothing is gonna change my mind on that. The team played with a freedom that has been lacking for weeks. The amount of possession was the same but the way we used it was far better.

 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 30 Mar 2014 11.45am

Quote Mapletree at 30 Mar 2014 11.30am

Quote Boooo at 30 Mar 2014 9.21am

Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 7.09pm

Just wondering where all the fans have gone from last week and the week before?

If I remember correctly there were a number of people criticising pulis' tactics, saying he doesn't know what he's doing bla bla bla.

Anyone care to carry on or can we all just agree he has got it spot on once again.

Genius.

Where's that coffee shaker smilie.
One of the reasons we did ok yesterday was that Puncheon played very well, for more minutes than he usually does but then he does that against the bigger sides. Thought CJ had his best game too.
3 more points in a season where every game is hard.

Congratulation on your pointless s*** thread.


The point about Puncheon is one I was also going to make. Not a revolutionary change in how we were set up but at times Punch and Bolasie (before he clearly tired) were sublime. And Mariappa now is settling into his rople well

But for goodness sake why slate the OP? This is a debate forum.


Because he was talking nonsense along with his appended others and for exactly the reason that this is a debate forum.

We don't hold hands and dance around trees looking for consensus.


I see what you are doing there, trees, very funny.

I just find it depressing that people look for opportunities to knock down posters instead of building on good points made and gently chiding them on daft ones.

 

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Plane Flag Bromley 30 Mar 14 12.16pm

Quote Dangermouse at 30 Mar 2014 11.51am

Quote IMpalace at 30 Mar 2014 10.55am

Quote Dangermouse at 29 Mar 2014 9.53pm

Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 8.02pm

Quote Dangermouse at 29 Mar 2014 7.15pm

Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 7.09pm

Just wondering where all the fans have gone from last week and the week before?

If I remember correctly there were a number of people criticising pulis' tactics, saying he doesn't know what he's doing bla bla bla.

Anyone care to carry on or can we all just agree he has got it spot on once again.

Genius.


I'm still here.
Changed tactics today, he actually set the team up to win. So if he gets it right, he gets praise, if he gets it wrong he doesn't. Seems fair to me.

You'll disagree but your completely wrong. He's gone with the same tactics he always has which is to make defending and being solid the priority and hitting them on the counter attack.

When holloway or anyone else for the matter could of got this palace team to get 3 points against the league leaders then let me know.

He is a tactical Genious end of and he proved that today.


Really. Both full backs got forward today as did both wingers. Jedi gave the ball away far less today, because he actually had some forward passes he could make and the players are also getting more familiar with the set up which frees the mind to do what comes naturally, rather than always thinking about positions. We counter attacked with a real speed and purpose and actually tried to pass it around at times rather than just hoof it. TP also did a Ollie and kept telling them to push up and encouraged them to run with it and take the game to them. In the previous five games he did not do this, so clearly somethings were different.

1) Chelsea wingers were obviously told to stand off full backs or were too lazy to track so they had time on the ball. They got forward when they could, as they have done every week.


2) Jedi gave the ball away a lot in the first half, as much if not more than normal.

3) 95% of our counter attacking was a result of Chelsea throwing people forward and playing a high line once 1-0 down.

The tactics were identical today, the difference is they worked.


Edited by IMpalace (30 Mar 2014 10.55am)


That's why it's called a counter attack, if they're all back we really can't counter. The difference yesterday was we did it with pace, numbers and a purpose.
The fullbacks have hardly got over halfway in recent matches and Jedi was far less wasteful and nothing is gonna change my mind on that. The team played with a freedom that has been lacking for weeks. The amount of possession was the same but the way we used it was far better.


Your inference is that TP instructs Jedi to make sh!t passes?

 

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I thought his tactics were very similar to most games, the only difference was that they worked yesterday. Chelsea certainly played into our hands though, perhaps they assumed that we would do a West Ham and park the bus and didn't have a plan B when we didn't. They should have known as we played quite well when we lost to them at the Bridge.

 


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Quote Mapletree at 30 Mar 2014 12.10pm

I see what you are doing there, trees, very funny.

I just find it depressing that people look for opportunities to knock down posters instead of building on good points made and gently chiding them on daft ones.


It's only knockabout.

No one gets hurt other than the overly sensitive and they shouldn't really be posting upon open debate forums. It's the old 'if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen' situation.

Civil debate does happen but if someone wants that then 'general talk' is more the area.....Though as we know even there fingers will be burnt.

 


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Quote topcat at 30 Mar 2014 12.17pm

I thought his tactics were very similar to most games, the only difference was that they worked yesterday. Chelsea certainly played into our hands though, perhaps they assumed that we would do a West Ham and park the bus and didn't have a plan B when we didn't. They should have known as we played quite well when we lost to them at the Bridge.


Yup exactly, they played narrow and we blocked and scared them on the break.

Same as usual but it just worked.

 


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Quote Plane at 30 Mar 2014 12.16pm

Quote Dangermouse at 30 Mar 2014 11.51am

Quote IMpalace at 30 Mar 2014 10.55am

Quote Dangermouse at 29 Mar 2014 9.53pm

Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 8.02pm

Quote Dangermouse at 29 Mar 2014 7.15pm

Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 7.09pm

Just wondering where all the fans have gone from last week and the week before?

If I remember correctly there were a number of people criticising pulis' tactics, saying he doesn't know what he's doing bla bla bla.

Anyone care to carry on or can we all just agree he has got it spot on once again.

Genius.


I'm still here.
Changed tactics today, he actually set the team up to win. So if he gets it right, he gets praise, if he gets it wrong he doesn't. Seems fair to me.

You'll disagree but your completely wrong. He's gone with the same tactics he always has which is to make defending and being solid the priority and hitting them on the counter attack.

When holloway or anyone else for the matter could of got this palace team to get 3 points against the league leaders then let me know.

He is a tactical Genious end of and he proved that today.


Really. Both full backs got forward today as did both wingers. Jedi gave the ball away far less today, because he actually had some forward passes he could make and the players are also getting more familiar with the set up which frees the mind to do what comes naturally, rather than always thinking about positions. We counter attacked with a real speed and purpose and actually tried to pass it around at times rather than just hoof it. TP also did a Ollie and kept telling them to push up and encouraged them to run with it and take the game to them. In the previous five games he did not do this, so clearly somethings were different.

1) Chelsea wingers were obviously told to stand off full backs or were too lazy to track so they had time on the ball. They got forward when they could, as they have done every week.


2) Jedi gave the ball away a lot in the first half, as much if not more than normal.

3) 95% of our counter attacking was a result of Chelsea throwing people forward and playing a high line once 1-0 down.

The tactics were identical today, the difference is they worked.


Edited by IMpalace (30 Mar 2014 10.55am)


That's why it's called a counter attack, if they're all back we really can't counter. The difference yesterday was we did it with pace, numbers and a purpose.
The fullbacks have hardly got over halfway in recent matches and Jedi was far less wasteful and nothing is gonna change my mind on that. The team played with a freedom that has been lacking for weeks. The amount of possession was the same but the way we used it was far better.


Your inference is that TP instructs Jedi to make sh!t passes?

Not at all, Jedi has never been the best passer, but was going through a bad spell which made his distribution even worse. Jedi seemed far more relaxed and positive yesterday, because in my opinion he was far more comfortable with what he was asked to do and with more options in and around him it made his game more instinctive and less robotic. Always having to follow strict instructions gets very tiring mentally and every mistake grinds you down.
Then again maybe he's just come out of his current slump and Pulis is entitled to no praise at all for the upturn.

 


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And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Would be nice to start hearing a few chants of Tony Pulis's Red and Blue army, or something complementary about him, the bloke is working miracles, thought I would hear something Saturday?

 


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Plane Flag Bromley 30 Mar 14 12.30pm

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Quote Plane at 30 Mar 2014 12.16pm

Quote Dangermouse at 30 Mar 2014 11.51am

Quote IMpalace at 30 Mar 2014 10.55am

Quote Dangermouse at 29 Mar 2014 9.53pm

Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 8.02pm

Quote Dangermouse at 29 Mar 2014 7.15pm

Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 7.09pm

Just wondering where all the fans have gone from last week and the week before?

If I remember correctly there were a number of people criticising pulis' tactics, saying he doesn't know what he's doing bla bla bla.

Anyone care to carry on or can we all just agree he has got it spot on once again.

Genius.


I'm still here.
Changed tactics today, he actually set the team up to win. So if he gets it right, he gets praise, if he gets it wrong he doesn't. Seems fair to me.

You'll disagree but your completely wrong. He's gone with the same tactics he always has which is to make defending and being solid the priority and hitting them on the counter attack.

When holloway or anyone else for the matter could of got this palace team to get 3 points against the league leaders then let me know.

He is a tactical Genious end of and he proved that today.


Really. Both full backs got forward today as did both wingers. Jedi gave the ball away far less today, because he actually had some forward passes he could make and the players are also getting more familiar with the set up which frees the mind to do what comes naturally, rather than always thinking about positions. We counter attacked with a real speed and purpose and actually tried to pass it around at times rather than just hoof it. TP also did a Ollie and kept telling them to push up and encouraged them to run with it and take the game to them. In the previous five games he did not do this, so clearly somethings were different.

1) Chelsea wingers were obviously told to stand off full backs or were too lazy to track so they had time on the ball. They got forward when they could, as they have done every week.


2) Jedi gave the ball away a lot in the first half, as much if not more than normal.

3) 95% of our counter attacking was a result of Chelsea throwing people forward and playing a high line once 1-0 down.

The tactics were identical today, the difference is they worked.


Edited by IMpalace (30 Mar 2014 10.55am)


That's why it's called a counter attack, if they're all back we really can't counter. The difference yesterday was we did it with pace, numbers and a purpose.
The fullbacks have hardly got over halfway in recent matches and Jedi was far less wasteful and nothing is gonna change my mind on that. The team played with a freedom that has been lacking for weeks. The amount of possession was the same but the way we used it was far better.


Your inference is that TP instructs Jedi to make sh!t passes?

Not at all, Jedi has never been the best passer, but was going through a bad spell which made his distribution even worse. Jedi seemed far more relaxed and positive yesterday, because in my opinion he was far more comfortable with what he was asked to do and with more options in and around him it made his game more instinctive and less robotic. Always having to follow strict instructions gets very tiring mentally and every mistake grinds you down.
Then again maybe he's just come out of his current slump and Pulis is entitled to no praise at all for the upturn.

That's probably nearer the mark.

That's unlikely to come from you as you've been in a sulk since he was appointed.

 

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Quote Mstrobez at 29 Mar 2014 7.09pm

Just wondering where all the fans have gone from last week and the week before?

If I remember correctly there were a number of people criticising pulis' tactics, saying he doesn't know what he's doing bla bla bla.

Anyone care to carry on or can we all just agree he has got it spot on once again.

Genius.

Gloating is not helpful (not saying you are any more than I) but I hope this does hit home to some who have constantly moaned about Pulis tactics that he can only make best use of the tools he has and to get results in this league with the players we have it has to be a solid midfield and impenetrable defence. We battered them in the second half and if not for some better quality finishing we'd have won that 3 0 or more.
I hope this result unites everyone for the run in, that the moaners shut up and the 'I told you so's' button it too!


 

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