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Quote merganser at 28 Apr 2014 12.36pm


Can any goalkeeper advise if Jules was at fault with Man City's first goal?

Should he have:

A) Caught or punched the cross before it found the striker?

B) Been quicker with his dive?

IMO, he didn't seem to command his goal area with a great deal of authority during the match.

Hope his chances (admittedly slim) of a World Cup call-up have not been jeopardised.

Will Hennessy be given a run-out before the end of the season?

Yes he should have done better from a bullet downward header from 3 yards out, delivered by a literally inch perfect cross.


Jesus Christ.

 


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Well in that sort of situation, should the goalkeeper try to make the save with his leg/ foot?

 

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Quote merganser at 28 Apr 2014 4.51pm


Well in that sort of situation, should the goalkeeper try to make the save with his leg/ foot?


If he was told where the ball was going to go, he'd have been hard pushed to get to it with his hand/foot/leg/ar$e let alone it being flung at him as it was.

How ever many times you ask the question or re-phrase it, the consensus is that NO, Jules wasnt at fault for the goal and couldnt have done much to stop it.

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Apr 2014 1.25pm

No, it was a perfect ball in between the defence and the Keeper. If he comes for that, he doesn't get there in time. If he positions himself to be able to get there in time, he's more likely to conceed from a shot.

Toure had too much time on the ball, and were not fast enough to stop Dejko.

No ones fault, they were just better than us.


Toure was given a lot of space to cross. So if there was a fault, it was not closing him Dow before he crossed.

 

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Quote coachmatt at 28 Apr 2014 2.57pm

In my humble opinion as a Goal Keeping coach to Juniors:
a) Not at fault in my opinion. He was standing in the correct place to react to either a shot or cross. Scorer jumped up between two defenders (who could have intercepted ball or blocked his path to the ball)from an awesome pinpoint cross.
b) Striker headed the ball down and hard (like they're taught to) GK had no chance.

How do we stop these type of goals?
a) Mark the player attempting to pass the ball tighter (close his space to reduce his options).
b) The defenders on the striker need to get up in the air at the right time to defect the ball or at least prevent the ball from reaching their striker.

It was a superb cross and quality header - we've perhaps got to accept sometimes the quality that we are up against.

Unfortunately our defence wasn't its usual Iron Curtain self yesterday. Toure had all the steel and their quality showed as suggested.

 


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I think this thread demonstrates that we've got so used to Jules pulling off miracle saves that some can't quite believe it when he doesn't.

As several others have said the fault was giving Toure too much time and space to pick out a perfect cross. The trajectory and pace of the cross meant Jules couldn't have got to it and the downward header was pretty much perfect. Dann or Mariappa needed to have got closer to Dzeko and put him under pressure, they only gave him a yard of space but it was enough.

The 'mistake' for the second goal was letting Toure bulldoze through the defence. The man's almost unstoppable when he's on a charge as plenty of other defenders have found out this season. I don't believe Jules had any chance with that goal either.

I didn't think City were at their best on Sunday but they have class all over the pitch, Toure in particular was the difference. Sometimes you just have to hold your hand up. Palace were not disgraced.

 

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