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Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
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it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense.
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| derben 03 May 15 8.32am |
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Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm
it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense. I think you are right. many more people will vote for them in the privacy of the polling booth, away from the anti-UKIP baying mob.
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| crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 03 May 15 3.05pm |
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Quote derben at 03 May 2015 8.32am
Quote Vaibow at 03 May 2015 3.06am
Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm
it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense. I think you are right. many more people will vote for them in the privacy of the polling booth, away from the anti-UKIP baying mob. I don't agree at all. On a football supporters website, based in the south east but mainly outside London, with the majority of posters a) Male b) a bit older than average, you will get a higher proportion of potential UKIP voters than in the general population. There's no value to be had in assuming that most people are like you, the vast majority of people who vote will support other parties, well over 85% of voters. The only impact UKIP will have is they will split the Tory vote in marginal constituencies and ensure a hung parliament. And I would suggest that the majority of UKIP supporters are far from embarrassed by their opinions; on the contrary, they seem only too happy to be very loud in expressing their opinions.
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| derben 03 May 15 3.36pm |
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Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 3.05pm
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Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm
it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense. I think you are right. many more people will vote for them in the privacy of the polling booth, away from the anti-UKIP baying mob. I don't agree at all. On a football supporters website, based in the south east but mainly outside London, with the majority of posters a) Male b) a bit older than average, you will get a higher proportion of potential UKIP voters than in the general population. There's no value to be had in assuming that most people are like you, the vast majority of people who vote will support other parties, well over 85% of voters. The only impact UKIP will have is they will split the Tory vote in marginal constituencies and ensure a hung parliament. And I would suggest that the majority of UKIP supporters are far from embarrassed by their opinions; on the contrary, they seem only too happy to be very loud in expressing their opinions. In the current climate, anyone expressing any sympathy with UKIP views is branded a racist, xenophobe etc and voicing any such views could damage your work prospects, if not worse, such as being arrested. The UKIP vote will be far bigger than the polls suggest.
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Kermit8  Hevon 03 May 15 3.58pm |
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10 per cent at best I reckon. Loads of Tory placards and posters here in South Devon. Have a feeling that plenty of Blues will not be deserting and voting for Fuhrage after all.
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| Stirlingsays 03 May 15 4.01pm |
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Ukip will be an ok force in parliamentary elections and continue to sweep up in EU elections. Whatever happens it's important that they receive enough votes so that all the EU suck ups in whatever party leads in government can't easily ignore them. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 May 2015 4.02pm)
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| Vaibow vancouver/croydon 03 May 15 4.29pm |
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Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 3.05pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 8.32am
Quote Vaibow at 03 May 2015 3.06am
Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm
it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense. I think you are right. many more people will vote for them in the privacy of the polling booth, away from the anti-UKIP baying mob. I don't agree at all. On a football supporters website, based in the south east but mainly outside London, with the majority of posters a) Male b) a bit older than average, you will get a higher proportion of potential UKIP voters than in the general population. There's no value to be had in assuming that most people are like you, the vast majority of people who vote will support other parties, well over 85% of voters. The only impact UKIP will have is they will split the Tory vote in marginal constituencies and ensure a hung parliament. And I would suggest that the majority of UKIP supporters are far from embarrassed by their opinions; on the contrary, they seem only too happy to be very loud in expressing their opinions.
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| crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 03 May 15 9.45pm |
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Quote derben at 03 May 2015 3.36pm
Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 3.05pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 8.32am
Quote Vaibow at 03 May 2015 3.06am
Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm
it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense. I think you are right. many more people will vote for them in the privacy of the polling booth, away from the anti-UKIP baying mob. I don't agree at all. On a football supporters website, based in the south east but mainly outside London, with the majority of posters a) Male b) a bit older than average, you will get a higher proportion of potential UKIP voters than in the general population. There's no value to be had in assuming that most people are like you, the vast majority of people who vote will support other parties, well over 85% of voters. The only impact UKIP will have is they will split the Tory vote in marginal constituencies and ensure a hung parliament. And I would suggest that the majority of UKIP supporters are far from embarrassed by their opinions; on the contrary, they seem only too happy to be very loud in expressing their opinions. In the current climate, anyone expressing any sympathy with UKIP views is branded a racist, xenophobe etc and voicing any such views could damage your work prospects, if not worse, such as being arrested. The UKIP vote will be far bigger than the polls suggest.
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| matt_himself Matataland 03 May 15 10.34pm |
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Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 9.45pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 3.36pm
Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 3.05pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 8.32am
Quote Vaibow at 03 May 2015 3.06am
Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm
it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense. I think you are right. many more people will vote for them in the privacy of the polling booth, away from the anti-UKIP baying mob. I don't agree at all. On a football supporters website, based in the south east but mainly outside London, with the majority of posters a) Male b) a bit older than average, you will get a higher proportion of potential UKIP voters than in the general population. There's no value to be had in assuming that most people are like you, the vast majority of people who vote will support other parties, well over 85% of voters. The only impact UKIP will have is they will split the Tory vote in marginal constituencies and ensure a hung parliament. And I would suggest that the majority of UKIP supporters are far from embarrassed by their opinions; on the contrary, they seem only too happy to be very loud in expressing their opinions. In the current climate, anyone expressing any sympathy with UKIP views is branded a racist, xenophobe etc and voicing any such views could damage your work prospects, if not worse, such as being arrested. The UKIP vote will be far bigger than the polls suggest.
UKIP have won. There will be a referendum in the next parliament if the Tories get in and both the Tories & Labour have committed to controlling immigration. UKIP are forcing the main parties to adopt their policies. Think about that when you vote for Milit***. He is not just in the pockets of the Unions, Nicole Sturgeon and Ed f***ing Balls but also UKIP.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 03 May 15 10.39pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 03 May 2015 10.34pm
Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 9.45pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 3.36pm
Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 3.05pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 8.32am
Quote Vaibow at 03 May 2015 3.06am
Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm
it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense. I think you are right. many more people will vote for them in the privacy of the polling booth, away from the anti-UKIP baying mob. I don't agree at all. On a football supporters website, based in the south east but mainly outside London, with the majority of posters a) Male b) a bit older than average, you will get a higher proportion of potential UKIP voters than in the general population. There's no value to be had in assuming that most people are like you, the vast majority of people who vote will support other parties, well over 85% of voters. The only impact UKIP will have is they will split the Tory vote in marginal constituencies and ensure a hung parliament. And I would suggest that the majority of UKIP supporters are far from embarrassed by their opinions; on the contrary, they seem only too happy to be very loud in expressing their opinions. In the current climate, anyone expressing any sympathy with UKIP views is branded a racist, xenophobe etc and voicing any such views could damage your work prospects, if not worse, such as being arrested. The UKIP vote will be far bigger than the polls suggest.
UKIP have won. There will be a referendum in the next parliament if the Tories get in and both the Tories & Labour have committed to controlling immigration. UKIP are forcing the main parties to adopt their policies. Think about that when you vote for Milit***. He is not just in the pockets of the Unions, Nicole Sturgeon and Ed f***ing Balls but also UKIP.
A Pyrrhic victory is looming.
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| matt_himself Matataland 03 May 15 10.44pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 03 May 2015 10.39pm
Quote matt_himself at 03 May 2015 10.34pm
Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 9.45pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 3.36pm
Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 3.05pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 8.32am
Quote Vaibow at 03 May 2015 3.06am
Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm
it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense. I think you are right. many more people will vote for them in the privacy of the polling booth, away from the anti-UKIP baying mob. I don't agree at all. On a football supporters website, based in the south east but mainly outside London, with the majority of posters a) Male b) a bit older than average, you will get a higher proportion of potential UKIP voters than in the general population. There's no value to be had in assuming that most people are like you, the vast majority of people who vote will support other parties, well over 85% of voters. The only impact UKIP will have is they will split the Tory vote in marginal constituencies and ensure a hung parliament. And I would suggest that the majority of UKIP supporters are far from embarrassed by their opinions; on the contrary, they seem only too happy to be very loud in expressing their opinions. In the current climate, anyone expressing any sympathy with UKIP views is branded a racist, xenophobe etc and voicing any such views could damage your work prospects, if not worse, such as being arrested. The UKIP vote will be far bigger than the polls suggest.
UKIP have won. There will be a referendum in the next parliament if the Tories get in and both the Tories & Labour have committed to controlling immigration. UKIP are forcing the main parties to adopt their policies. Think about that when you vote for Milit***. He is not just in the pockets of the Unions, Nicole Sturgeon and Ed f***ing Balls but also UKIP.
A Pyrrhic victory is looming.
Remind me, what policies have Labour or the Greens or 'credible' TUSC forced onto other parties this election?
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 03 May 15 10.47pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 03 May 2015 10.34pm
Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 9.45pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 3.36pm
Quote crystal balls at 03 May 2015 3.05pm
Quote derben at 03 May 2015 8.32am
Quote Vaibow at 03 May 2015 3.06am
Quote Seth at 01 May 2015 6.26pm
Quote Vaibow at 01 May 2015 5.32pm
it may well be that UKIP represent what most of us think, but realistically - would we be any better at running the nation this way? what i mean is, ideally many of us want this and that, but does it translate well in the wider picture - when has a party ever gone in and totally shaken things up. Things take time, messes need to be cleaned up and it isn't that easy. Politicians are no more more than puppets and 'yes' people to the higher powers that be - banks and corporations. Would UKIP stand their ground and piss off the economical world or eventually get their hands twisted and be just another puppet?
what i mean by this, is a lot of people out on the street appear to want to vote UKIP but are either embarrassed of being called racist, or don't think it will make a difference. If that makes sense. I think you are right. many more people will vote for them in the privacy of the polling booth, away from the anti-UKIP baying mob. I don't agree at all. On a football supporters website, based in the south east but mainly outside London, with the majority of posters a) Male b) a bit older than average, you will get a higher proportion of potential UKIP voters than in the general population. There's no value to be had in assuming that most people are like you, the vast majority of people who vote will support other parties, well over 85% of voters. The only impact UKIP will have is they will split the Tory vote in marginal constituencies and ensure a hung parliament. And I would suggest that the majority of UKIP supporters are far from embarrassed by their opinions; on the contrary, they seem only too happy to be very loud in expressing their opinions. In the current climate, anyone expressing any sympathy with UKIP views is branded a racist, xenophobe etc and voicing any such views could damage your work prospects, if not worse, such as being arrested. The UKIP vote will be far bigger than the polls suggest.
UKIP have won. There will be a referendum in the next parliament if the Tories get in and both the Tories & Labour have committed to controlling immigration. UKIP are forcing the main parties to adopt their policies. Think about that when you vote for Milit***. He is not just in the pockets of the Unions, Nicole Sturgeon and Ed f***ing Balls but also UKIP.
A Pyrrhic victory is looming.
Remind me, what policies have Labour or the Greens or 'credible' TUSC forced onto other parties this election?
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