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 mcduh  16 Jul 15 5.04am |
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I have some cool ideas for hard-nosed, rebellious red and blue flags for dingdongs to get excited about having the God-given right to wave: Haiti Serbia Cuba Samoa Taiwan
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Ninjas Headband  Biggleswade 16 Jul 15 6.24am |
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Quality photos of Palace on Flickr; [Link] |
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| mcduh 16 Jul 15 6.49am |
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Quote Ninjas Headband at 16 Jul 2015 6.24am
Indeed. Was John Oliver noteworthy in the UK at all? He and his writers do a pretty good job at helping Americans understand really simple things, and at explaining simple American things to those on foreign shores.
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| johnfirewall 16 Jul 15 1.02pm |
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Ironic that a few on here have effectively given the negative connotations back. How about you just let it be a red and blue flag? How many people outside of the US actually know what it is? Let alone black south Londoners. I read an article on the popularity of the Union Flag in Cuba, where it adorns teenagers clothing for purely aesthetic reasons. I wonder how many people over there are accusing the wearers of supporting the BNP or worse, a capitalist nation? We've enough to take in to consideration when we fly our own flags. When in Barcelona I bought a velcro Catalan independence patch as an alterative to the Union flag which came on a jacket but I'm worried who that might upset now. Tibet is a nice one, but even the Dalai Lama has upset a few people. Please provide a list of liberal approved flags. Edited by johnfirewall (16 Jul 2015 1.03pm)
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 16 Jul 15 1.21pm |
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Quote johnfirewall at 16 Jul 2015 1.02pm
How many people outside of the US actually know what it is? Let alone black south Londoners. Edited by johnfirewall (16 Jul 2015 1.03pm) Anyone with a semblance of education.
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| Leicestershireeagle South Leicestershire 16 Jul 15 1.32pm |
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Quote madcap_v2 at 16 Jul 2015 1.21pm
Quote johnfirewall at 16 Jul 2015 1.02pm
How many people outside of the US actually know what it is? Let alone black south Londoners. Edited by johnfirewall (16 Jul 2015 1.03pm) Anyone with a semblance of education. Not to mention that we're the 5th most watched Premier League team in the States (I think). If it could potentially harm the brand image, particularly in the growing market across the Atlantic, then I dare say the club may ask for not to be flown. Why anyone would actually want to fly it in the first place is a different matter.
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| mcduh 16 Jul 15 2.52pm |
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You guys: When the HF was alerted as to the actual symbolism of the flag being slavery and lingering racism and not the Dukes of Hazzard and Lynyrd Skynrd... they took the stupid thing out of the patchwork flag. The only people that are yammering on in its defense/making excuses etc.at this point are misled or actively trolling dads.
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| mcduh 16 Jul 15 2.59pm |
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And just for the history buffs out there:
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Jul 15 3.37pm |
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Quote johnfirewall at 16 Jul 2015 1.02pm
Ironic that a few on here have effectively given the negative connotations back. How about you just let it be a red and blue flag? How many people outside of the US actually know what it is? Let alone black south Londoners. I read an article on the popularity of the Union Flag in Cuba, where it adorns teenagers clothing for purely aesthetic reasons. I wonder how many people over there are accusing the wearers of supporting the BNP or worse, a capitalist nation? We've enough to take in to consideration when we fly our own flags. When in Barcelona I bought a velcro Catalan independence patch as an alterative to the Union flag which came on a jacket but I'm worried who that might upset now. Tibet is a nice one, but even the Dalai Lama has upset a few people. Please provide a list of liberal approved flags. Edited by johnfirewall (16 Jul 2015 1.03pm) I'd like to think most people might have recently noticed that there was a big furor in the states over dropping the flag from the Georgia state flag, and the fact that the Klan campaigned against it. I think it goes beyond a few upset people.
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| johnfirewall 16 Jul 15 4.42pm |
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Quote Leicestershireeagle at 16 Jul 2015 1.32pm
Quote madcap_v2 at 16 Jul 2015 1.21pm
Quote johnfirewall at 16 Jul 2015 1.02pm
How many people outside of the US actually know what it is? Let alone black south Londoners. Edited by johnfirewall (16 Jul 2015 1.03pm) Anyone with a semblance of education. Not to mention that we're the 5th most watched Premier League team in the States (I think). If it could potentially harm the brand image, particularly in the growing market across the Atlantic, then I dare say the club may ask for not to be flown. Why anyone would actually want to fly it in the first place is a different matter. I can't imagine that anyone in the world would read into it as a 21st Century football supporters group's endorsement of slavery. The game has had its dark decades FFS. Although it would've increased our American audience if anything. This just highlights how behind they are if this is still the overriding association with the flag. Must be bad if Texas don't use it officially. St George's has multiple negative connotations as do hundreds of insignias.
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| jimmyc 16 Jul 15 4.49pm |
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Quote johnfirewall at 16 Jul 2015 1.02pm
Ironic that a few on here have effectively given the negative connotations back. How about you just let it be a red and blue flag? How many people outside of the US actually know what it is? Let alone black south Londoners. I read an article on the popularity of the Union Flag in Cuba, where it adorns teenagers clothing for purely aesthetic reasons. I wonder how many people over there are accusing the wearers of supporting the BNP or worse, a capitalist nation? We've enough to take in to consideration when we fly our own flags. When in Barcelona I bought a velcro Catalan independence patch as an alterative to the Union flag which came on a jacket but I'm worried who that might upset now. Tibet is a nice one, but even the Dalai Lama has upset a few people. Please provide a list of liberal approved flags. Edited by johnfirewall (16 Jul 2015 1.03pm) that's a pretty ignorant/naive view. Prem matches are broadcast around the world with every game being shown live in the States. Do you think that people over there would know or understand that you just think the flag is pretty? Clearly not, and at best we would look ignorant and at worst, racist.
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| johnfirewall 16 Jul 15 7.02pm |
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Quote jimmyc at 16 Jul 2015 4.49pm
Quote johnfirewall at 16 Jul 2015 1.02pm
Ironic that a few on here have effectively given the negative connotations back. How about you just let it be a red and blue flag? How many people outside of the US actually know what it is? Let alone black south Londoners. I read an article on the popularity of the Union Flag in Cuba, where it adorns teenagers clothing for purely aesthetic reasons. I wonder how many people over there are accusing the wearers of supporting the BNP or worse, a capitalist nation? We've enough to take in to consideration when we fly our own flags. When in Barcelona I bought a velcro Catalan independence patch as an alterative to the Union flag which came on a jacket but I'm worried who that might upset now. Tibet is a nice one, but even the Dalai Lama has upset a few people. Please provide a list of liberal approved flags. Edited by johnfirewall (16 Jul 2015 1.03pm) that's a pretty ignorant/naive view. Prem matches are broadcast around the world with every game being shown live in the States. Do you think that people over there would know or understand that you just think the flag is pretty? Clearly not, and at best we would look ignorant and at worst, racist. Hopefully. I am as naive as most on here to what a black American's perception of the flag might be. Ask Obama what he thought of being greeted with them in Oklahoma today. That wasn't a mark of racism. Neither was the HF's use. I'd be defending the use of the St George's flag if England had failed to defeat racism and had let it become a symbol of hate. The Nazis liked an eagle... Fcuk, the HF's amalgamation was pretty bad. Edited by johnfirewall (16 Jul 2015 7.17pm)
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