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 Stuk  Top half 26 Feb 16 4.24pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
My solution We should round up everyone off the streets. Those who are economic migrants be sent home (as happened a couple of years ago) Those who are on hard times and or have mental issues but in one of the many now empty army camps. Give them a six month deal. In that time they are fed and watered and paid a basic wage. 50% they get weekly the other is saved for when they leave. During the six months (or however long), they receive vocational training (if appropriate), PT, heath care, psychiatric help, etc. They are free to leave at any time but they forfeit the 50% salary (there could be exceptions e.g. reunited with estranged family) Towards the end of their time they are helped to find work and released into a hostel. Might not be perfect but I reckon it would help with a lot of them Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (26 Feb 2016 4.12pm) I'd agree with doing all of that but you know what you would still have at the conclusion of it? Homeless people. It's not something you could ever stop, even if they made it into the most illegal thing you could do.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Feb 16 4.28pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
My solution We should round up everyone off the streets. Those who are economic migrants be sent home (as happened a couple of years ago) Those who are on hard times and or have mental issues but in one of the many now empty army camps. Give them a six month deal. In that time they are fed and watered and paid a basic wage. 50% they get weekly the other is saved for when they leave. During the six months (or however long), they receive vocational training (if appropriate), PT, heath care, psychiatric help, etc. They are free to leave at any time but they forfeit the 50% salary (there could be exceptions e.g. reunited with estranged family) Towards the end of their time they are helped to find work and released into a hostel. Might not be perfect but I reckon it would help with a lot of them Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (26 Feb 2016 4.12pm) The biggest problem for the homeless is getting a stable basis from which to rebuild as basis for a life. Systems in place to help the homeless are absurdly complex for anyone who lives on the street to make use of. Over the last 20 years the rules regarding benefits have increasingly created 'holes' in the safety net which leave homeless largely at the mercy of charities. Unsurprisingly, alcoholism and addiction play a role in some becoming homeless, but more often in keeping them homeless. Sleeping rough is hard, drugs and booze can help with that. Similarly whilst people with mental health problems end up on the street, more develop problems because of their situation. Friend of mine is currently homeless. Groups like Shelter, St Mungos etc have absurd requirements necessary before they can 'provide assistance' whilst the council are largely useless (referring people to charities, to whom they outsource their responsibility). Without an address, its impossible to claim benefits and get out through that route. Whilst charities demand that they find 'each homeless' person three times before even registering them. Hostels tend to be limited in their ability to assist (and of course if you're in a shelter you can't 'be found' by charities). Changes in the law also mean that people cannot provide an address for a homeless person to claim from either. The system basically has abandoned the homeless and has failed to provide a basis of people to escape from what is a terrible experience, whilst homelessness in the UK seems to be rising. Whilst some people may have made decisions that lead to their situation, who among us hasn't made bad decisions in life. Ultimately though, the welfare system was developed to secure the most vulnerable and desperate among society, and that clearly is those who live and sleep rough.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Feb 16 4.32pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I'd agree with doing all of that but you know what you would still have at the conclusion of it? Homeless people. It's not something you could ever stop, even if they made it into the most illegal thing you could do.
I think a degree of homelessness in society is inevitable, the problem is how to create a reasonable basis to assist people from recovering from homelessness and protect them from exploitation, abuse and violence in society.
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| Hoof Hearted 27 Feb 16 10.59am | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
My solution We should round up everyone off the streets. Those who are economic migrants be sent home (as happened a couple of years ago) Those who are on hard times and or have mental issues but in one of the many now empty army camps. Give them a six month deal. In that time they are fed and watered and paid a basic wage. 50% they get weekly the other is saved for when they leave. During the six months (or however long), they receive vocational training (if appropriate), PT, heath care, psychiatric help, etc. They are free to leave at any time but they forfeit the 50% salary (there could be exceptions e.g. reunited with estranged family) Towards the end of their time they are helped to find work and released into a hostel. Might not be perfect but I reckon it would help with a lot of them Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (26 Feb 2016 4.12pm) A plan that seems to have a lot of merits. You are correct that it is not the perfect solution, but might help a good few and that would be a good thing. at least you've tried to find a solution rather than just accepting there will always be homeless people.
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