It is the inevitable fruits of attempting to implement these sorts of policies that are shared by the likes of TUSC. Certainly some Capitalist states fail, but all extreme 'Socialist' state do.

So if was not for the evil USA, all these attempts to build Socialism would succeed? It is not that is just doesn't work then?

Are the 'Kurds in Northern Syria' a Socialist country then? Are immigrants flooding in to share in the largese of the Kurdish region and the Spanish communes and South American Socialist states? Or are their populations in fact clamouring to get out.

Successful Capitalist countries, the majority of them - top ten most prosperous countries are thought to be: Norway, Denmark, Finland, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, Canada, Switzerland, Netherlands, USA.

That first point suggests you haven't read my original post. I am sceptical of many Socialist projects, many are very discriminatory and corrupt and thus regardless of American interference I wouldn't personally deem them as successful - if Cuba is locking up homosexuals then they are not worth any egalitarian status. BUT to ignore the role that American covert intervention has played, particularly in South America is to be blinded by your Capitalist ideology.

Point 2. Of course people aren't flooding in to Rojava and neighbouring areas, they're being bombed the f*ck out of by people who want to butcher them! They are an autonomous region based on the principles of Anarchist-Communism, which is really f*cking incredible given the situation they are in, but they are fighting a war, and while many Kurds from surrounding areas are supporting them, being in a war zone is not conducive to welcoming in many refugees! As far as I'm aware though, migration from South American nations and Spanish towns like Marinaleda are as you would expect. These are incredibly impoverished areas, not really capable of housing migrants on a mass scale, although the proliferation of their ideology in local areas is encouraging.

This really brings me on to your last point. If you're going to judge a nation's success on their financial prosperity then you not only exclude most Socialist nations whose focus on egalitarianism supersedes economic growth, but you are also ignoring the systematic vices of nations like Australia and America. Until the 1970s, Australians classified Aboriginies among plants and animals, thus condoning the woeful murder of much of the native population. Even now, one only has to look at their record on taking in migrants from the pacific to see how racist a nation it is. America has similar records on both counts, committing genocide on the Native Americans, having a quarter of the world's prison population which is 80% black doing unpaid labour (which, let's make no bones about it, is slavery) while having the most hideous and contemptible foreign policies since the British empire.

Can I also say how ironic it is that of the successful countries you chose, you point to so many social democracies despite having said previously that you'd vote for UKIP!

That first point suggests you haven't read my original post. I am sceptical of many Socialist projects, many are very discriminatory and corrupt and thus regardless of American interference I wouldn't personally deem them as successful - if Cuba is locking up homosexuals then they are not worth any egalitarian status. BUT to ignore the role that American covert intervention has played, particularly in South America is to be blinded by your Capitalist ideology.

Point 2. Of course people aren't flooding in to Rojava and neighbouring areas, they're being bombed the f*ck out of by people who want to butcher them! They are an autonomous region based on the principles of Anarchist-Communism, which is really f*cking incredible given the situation they are in, but they are fighting a war, and while many Kurds from surrounding areas are supporting them, being in a war zone is not conducive to welcoming in many refugees! As far as I'm aware though, migration from South American nations and Spanish towns like Marinaleda are as you would expect. These are incredibly impoverished areas, not really capable of housing migrants on a mass scale, although the proliferation of their ideology in local areas is encouraging.

This really brings me on to your last point. If you're going to judge a nation's success on their financial prosperity then you not only exclude most Socialist nations whose focus on egalitarianism supersedes economic growth, but you are also ignoring the systematic vices of nations like Australia and America. Until the 1970s, Australians classified Aboriginies among plants and animals, thus condoning the woeful murder of much of the native population. Even now, one only has to look at their record on taking in migrants from the pacific to see how racist a nation it is. America has similar records on both counts, committing genocide on the Native Americans, having a quarter of the world's prison population which is 80% black doing unpaid labour (which, let's make no bones about it, is slavery) while having the most hideous and contemptible foreign policies since the British empire.

Can I also say how ironic it is that of the successful countries you chose, you point to so many social democracies despite having said previously that you'd vote for UKIP!

Don't know what gay rights has to with Socialism - did Marx cover it?

lol I bet the workers appreciate that.

The core of Socialism is state control of all means of production, distribution and exchange. When attempts to run an economy on this basis inevitably start to fail, the state becomes increasing oppressive in order to control the elements (ie: the majority of ordinary people) that is sees as the causes of their failure (and the wicked USA too of course). In some cases they then abandon their failed Socialist 'economics' and revert to Capitalism (as in the Peoples Republic of China, often while retaining their non-democratic, one-party, oppression of the people they supposedly want to help.

Of course the numbers involved in the likes of the Australian aboriginie atrocities are a drop in the ocean of blood and mountains of corpses generated by the likes of Socialists, Stalin, Mao Tse-Tung and Pol Pot.

I wish the Kurds luck with their Anarchist-Communism set-up (I expect frying pans and fires must be in the thoughts of ordinary working Kurds).