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 black eagle.  south croydon. 07 Jun 15 8.20pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 07 Jun 2015 7.14pm
This thread has me a little interested, I know Davis and Coltrane stuff quite well.
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 15 8.23pm |
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Quote black eagle. at 07 Jun 2015 8.20pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Jun 2015 7.14pm
This thread has me a little interested, I know Davis and Coltrane stuff quite well.
Whoooooosh. I remember the Wire. Was there another called Straight No Chaser? Or was that acid jazz?
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| black eagle. south croydon. 07 Jun 15 8.32pm |
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Quote legaleagle at 07 Jun 2015 7.00pm
Saw Sonny Stitt and Red Holloway at the Greyhound in Croydon! Must have been about 1980-81 ish
Got an album of his where he plays Charlie Parker compasitions as well as a few more Stitt albums. Horace Silver talksabout Sonny Stitt in his book.
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| legaleagle 07 Jun 15 8.49pm |
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This is a good reissue of some of Sonny Stitt's best "later" stuff.Straight bop. £2.49 plus postage second hand on amazon! Good place to start with Sonny Stitt, Nick! Here's the review: "Sonny Stitt made some great recordings for the Muse label in 1975 - 1980. This delightful double CD contain no less than four complete albums, "Blues for Duke","My Buddy", "Mellow Mood" and "Sonny's back!" - all with his favorite piano player Barry Harris, and expert rhythm sections. On "Mellow mood" he is joined by Jimmy Heath and on "Sonny's Back" Ricky Ford is joining him on a few numbers Jazz Journal sells in Smiths,monthly.Covers the whole range of Jazz from 1920's on as opposed to just bop onwards.Good reviews section. And to the poster who mentioned the Ben Webster room.Ben W is one of my all-time favourite tenor sax players! More "swing era" than blue note period,though interesting in the Blue Note documentary to hear the musicians talking about how Alfred Lion always insisted on getting the "swing" in the rhythm underneath. Edited by legaleagle (07 Jun 2015 8.55pm)
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| legaleagle 07 Jun 15 8.54pm |
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Quote black eagle. at 07 Jun 2015 8.32pm
Quote legaleagle at 07 Jun 2015 7.00pm
Saw Sonny Stitt and Red Holloway at the Greyhound in Croydon! Must have been about 1980-81 ish
Got an album of his where he plays Charlie Parker compasitions as well as a few more Stitt albums. Horace Silver talks about Sonny Stitt in his book. Going off topic a little,in terms of alto sax,if you like "swing"as well as bop,IMO the "master" was Johnny Hodges,who was with Duke Ellington on and off for 40 years.Coltrane admired Hodges and played in his band in the early 50's. Johnny Hodges had a fabulous "tone" particularly on ballads.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 15 8.58pm |
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Thanks legal, might buy that (I wonder if music industry profits have gone up since staffie's sad demise) Now I'm showing my ignorance - What's the difference between bop and hard bop?
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| legaleagle 07 Jun 15 9.01pm |
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Others may differ,but I'd say "hard bop" was a more "soulful" "churchy" style that came into vogue in the late 50's,kind of alongside Ray Charles' early transforming of rhythm and blues into early soul music.
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| legaleagle 07 Jun 15 9.03pm |
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I wouldn't know Nick,but I wouldn't mind betting a certain torrent site had about 20 Sonny Stitt titles... Edited by legaleagle (07 Jun 2015 9.03pm)
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| black eagle. south croydon. 07 Jun 15 10.50pm |
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Quote legaleagle at 07 Jun 2015 8.54pm
[quoock eagle. at 07 Jun 2015 8.32pm Quote legaleagle at 07 Jun 2015 7.00pm
Saw Sonny Stitt and Red Holloway at the Greyhound in Croydon! Must have been about 1980-81 ish
Got an album of his where he plays Charlie Parker compasitions as well as a few more Stitt albums. Horace Silver talks about Sonny Stitt in his book. Going off topic a little,in terms of alto sax,if you like "swing"as well as bop,IMO the "master" was Johnny Hodges,who was with Duke Ellington on and off for 40 years.Coltrane admired Hodges and played in his band in the early 50's. Johnny Hodges had a fabulous "tone" particularly on ballads.
Jackie mc'clean is another favourite of mine,Albums like Blue's Nik and Jackies bag are classics. he also did a very good hard bop album called Swing,swang,Swinging which i bought years ago. Jackie also had had a great tone on his Alto.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 15 11.05pm |
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Quote legaleagle at 07 Jun 2015 9.01pm
Others may differ,but I'd say "hard bop" was a more "soulful" "churchy" style that came into vogue in the late 50's,kind of alongside Ray Charles' early transforming of rhythm and blues into early soul music.
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| legaleagle 07 Jun 15 11.18pm |
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Quote black eagle. at 07 Jun 2015 10.50pm
Jackie mc'clean is another favourite of mine,Albums like Blue's Nik and Jackies bag are classics. he also did a very good hard bop album called Swing,swang,Swinging which i bought years ago. Jackie also had had a great tone on his Alto. I don't know his own stuff too much,but will definitely check it out on your recommendation!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 15 11.20pm |
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Slightly off topic, but I loved the way the Byrds emulated Coltrane's playing style (but on guitar) on some tracks, most notably on 8 miles high. Edited by nickgusset (07 Jun 2015 11.21pm)
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