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Quote Brentmiester_General at 08 Jun 2015 1.59pm

Quote Willo at 08 Jun 2015 9.16am

Quote crvenaeagle at 08 Jun 2015 7.47am

Isn't Watfords whole recent success due to Italians?

Well the owners are Italians and Watford have employed a number of players from one of their sister clubs Udinese but not all of these players are actually Italian.And a number of their players have come from one of their other clubs, Granada who are a spanish outfit.On the subject of players, none of their three top scorers last season Deeney, Ighalo and Vydra are Italian.

Their recent managers Zola and Sannino are of course Italian but they went up with Jokanovic.


Edited by Willo (08 Jun 2015 9.37am)

Forgot about Vydra. Was hot property the season we beat them in the playoff final wasn't he.

Believe that Watford are trying to loan him again from Udinese in a 2 year deal.


 

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Quote Canterbury Palace at 08 Jun 2015 9.57am

There have been plenty of fantastic Italian players in Prem history. Lombardo, Cudicini, Vialli, Ravanelli, Carbone, Di Matteo, Di Canio and Zola to name but a few.

Admittedly the amount of success stories seem to have dried up in recent years and this article seems to think it's more the changing style of English clubs not suiting their game rather than a culture thing.

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Ravanelli is remembered for one game, and was far from a great success, the only real success that you've named was Zola, the rest were just good players but did not really set the Premier on alight, like some of the South Americans, or Spanish, French, and Portuguese, have done.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 08 Jun 15 2.30pm

Quote Sg Bilko at 08 Jun 2015 2.28pm

Quote Canterbury Palace at 08 Jun 2015 9.57am

There have been plenty of fantastic Italian players in Prem history. Lombardo, Cudicini, Vialli, Ravanelli, Carbone, Di Matteo, Di Canio and Zola to name but a few.

Admittedly the amount of success stories seem to have dried up in recent years and this article seems to think it's more the changing style of English clubs not suiting their game rather than a culture thing.

[Link]

Ravanelli is remembered for one game, and was far from a great success, the only real success that you've named was Zola, the rest were just good players but did not really set the Premier on alight, like some of the South Americans, or Spanish, French, and Portuguese, have done.

Di Canio?

 


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Quote Willo at 08 Jun 2015 2.07pm

Quote Brentmiester_General at 08 Jun 2015 1.59pm

Quote Willo at 08 Jun 2015 9.16am

Quote crvenaeagle at 08 Jun 2015 7.47am

Isn't Watfords whole recent success due to Italians?

Well the owners are Italians and Watford have employed a number of players from one of their sister clubs Udinese but not all of these players are actually Italian.And a number of their players have come from one of their other clubs, Granada who are a spanish outfit.On the subject of players, none of their three top scorers last season Deeney, Ighalo and Vydra are Italian.

Their recent managers Zola and Sannino are of course Italian but they went up with Jokanovic.


Edited by Willo (08 Jun 2015 9.37am)

Forgot about Vydra. Was hot property the season we beat them in the playoff final wasn't he.

Believe that Watford are trying to loan him again from Udinese in a 2 year deal.



He'll never play for Udinese.

 


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Quote Sg Bilko at 08 Jun 2015 2.28pm

Quote Canterbury Palace at 08 Jun 2015 9.57am

There have been plenty of fantastic Italian players in Prem history. Lombardo, Cudicini, Vialli, Ravanelli, Carbone, Di Matteo, Di Canio and Zola to name but a few.

Admittedly the amount of success stories seem to have dried up in recent years and this article seems to think it's more the changing style of English clubs not suiting their game rather than a culture thing.

[Link]

Ravanelli is remembered for one game, and was far from a great success, the only real success that you've named was Zola, the rest were just good players but did not really set the Premier on alight, like some of the South Americans, or Spanish, French, and Portuguese, have done.

Ravanelli scored over 30 goals in all competitions , that is a success, he was one of the big stars that season!!

 

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View Beastie's Profile Beastie Flag 08 Jun 15 4.17pm Send a Private Message to Beastie Add Beastie as a friend

This thread is so weird. Since when do we judge possible signings on how good their compatriots have been?

 

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Quote Beastie at 08 Jun 2015 4.17pm

This thread is so weird. Since when do we judge possible signings on how good their compatriots have been?


In this case I think it makes sense. In recent years, players who have flourished in serie A don't seem to travel to the premier League well. Perhaps it is because the styles of play are too different

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Quote Sg Bilko at 08 Jun 2015 2.28pm

Quote Canterbury Palace at 08 Jun 2015 9.57am

There have been plenty of fantastic Italian players in Prem history. Lombardo, Cudicini, Vialli, Ravanelli, Carbone, Di Matteo, Di Canio and Zola to name but a few.

Admittedly the amount of success stories seem to have dried up in recent years and this article seems to think it's more the changing style of English clubs not suiting their game rather than a culture thing.

[Link]

Ravanelli is remembered for one game, and was far from a great success, the only real success that you've named was Zola, the rest were just good players but did not really set the Premier on alight, like some of the South Americans, or Spanish, French, and Portuguese, have done.


I don't fully understand how you're quantifying 'success'. Ravanelli scored 31 goals in 48 games that season across the league and cups of which they reached both finals, is that not success? Cudicini, Di Matteo and Vialli all won several domestic cups and the latter two the Cup Winners Cup with Chelsea and were before the Abramovich money came in. The other players were all great successes for their clubs, particularly Di Canio.

If you're basing it on talent then using Zola, one of the greatest players in Premier League history, seems an unfairly high standard. Of all the regions you mentioned I'd only really regard Henry, Ronaldo and possibly Aguero/Suarez above him. Portugal seems a particularly unusual example with far more failures than success stories.

 


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Quote Canterbury Palace at 08 Jun 2015 4.49pm

Quote Sg Bilko at 08 Jun 2015 2.28pm

Quote Canterbury Palace at 08 Jun 2015 9.57am

There have been plenty of fantastic Italian players in Prem history. Lombardo, Cudicini, Vialli, Ravanelli, Carbone, Di Matteo, Di Canio and Zola to name but a few.

Admittedly the amount of success stories seem to have dried up in recent years and this article seems to think it's more the changing style of English clubs not suiting their game rather than a culture thing.

[Link]

Ravanelli is remembered for one game, and was far from a great success, the only real success that you've named was Zola, the rest were just good players but did not really set the Premier on alight, like some of the South Americans, or Spanish, French, and Portuguese, have done.


I don't fully understand how you're quantifying 'success'. Ravanelli scored 31 goals in 48 games that season across the league and cups of which they reached both finals, is that not success? Cudicini, Di Matteo and Vialli all won several domestic cups and the latter two the Cup Winners Cup with Chelsea and were before the Abramovich money came in. The other players were all great successes for their clubs, particularly Di Canio.

If you're basing it on talent then using Zola, one of the greatest players in Premier League history, seems an unfairly high standard. Of all the regions you mentioned I'd only really regard Henry, Ronaldo and possibly Aguero/Suarez above him. Portugal seems a particularly unusual example with far more failures than success stories.


Err this lol. Big time.

 

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This lad would surely be a great addition!!

 


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Would love this to happen [Link]

 

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It says we were ready to pay the 15m Euros required.
I wonder if this was true, but anyway he's gone, as it seems...

 


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