Is London losing it's creativity and 'cool'
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 johnfirewall  08 Jun 15 11.42am |
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Quote We are goin up! at 08 Jun 2015 10.57am
Where I do agree with the article is that London's culture needs protecting. Don't shut places like Fabric/Madame JoJo's/Cable and don't pander to big companies that want to make everywhere a hub of Pret-a-f*cking-Mangers. Or flats. I'll probably agree that London is doomed if the new development next to Ministry of Sound sees the club closed down due to noise complains, as is the subject of much speculation.
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 becky over the moon 08 Jun 15 11.43am |
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Quote aquickgame2 at 08 Jun 2015 11.21am
Nothing round my part of London in the past 20 odd years has changed much....I love it. Started going downhill though, with the advent of Mo's corner shop.......
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Jun 15 11.57am |
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Quote We are goin up! at 08 Jun 2015 10.57am
Where I do agree with the article is that London's culture needs protecting. Don't shut places like Fabric/Madame JoJo's/Cable and don't pander to big companies that want to make everywhere a hub of Pret-a-f*cking-Mangers. Not specifically these location, but I agree entirely with the proliferation of identi-kit franchise business and chains such ala Starbucks, pret-a-manger, greggs etc, over independent stores and outlets. Sadly, this is probably an envitable consequence of the inflexibility of small store business models, high street rent costs and the business practices of large chains and franchises. Things like Madame Jo-Jos, Fabric et al, shouldn't necessarily be preserved, they should exist in their space and time, but the loss of locations that can be places like that is always a loss, if its replaced by something purely functional or identi-kit. I once went to the Hacienda, it wasn't necessarily the best night or greatest time of my life, but its the participation in something of history that is of its time and place, that creates a special moment. Had it been preserved forever, would it really be so much of a cultural icon?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Jun 15 11.59am |
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Quote We are goin up! at 08 Jun 2015 10.57am
Where I do agree with the article is that London's culture needs protecting. Don't shut places like Fabric/Madame JoJo's/Cable and don't pander to big companies that want to make everywhere a hub of Pret-a-f*cking-Mangers. Or flats. I'll probably agree that London is doomed if the new development next to Ministry of Sound sees the club closed down due to noise complains, as is the subject of much speculation. Ministry of Sound was always a horrible club, but I agree, I'd rather see it become a new club or venue, but I'd hate to see it turned into a supermarket or flats.... Superclubs were always so gauche.
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 08 Jun 15 12.11pm |
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Quote Superfly at 08 Jun 2015 10.54am
That's what I love about the HOL. In order to keep each topic fresh and interesting, we always find a way to switch it to racism. Which isn't at all tedious. I blame them pesky immigrants... London's coolness is subsiding purely because of those North London types who seem to think all you need to do is grow a beard, live in a former slum and ride a unicycle to work to be cool and edgy rather than just an utter tw@t
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Jun 15 12.38pm |
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Quote Superfly at 08 Jun 2015 10.54am
That's what I love about the HOL. In order to keep each topic fresh and interesting, we always find a way to switch it to racism. Which isn't at all tedious. I blame them pesky immigrants... London's coolness is subsiding purely because of those North London types who seem to think all you need to do is grow a beard, live in a former slum and ride a unicycle to work to be cool and edgy rather than just an utter tw@t
Hahahha yes maybe very much. I saw some c**t wearing football boots in a bar not so long ago, it took all my restraint not to chin the c**t. Sometimes central London looks like a 'Nathen Barley' convention.
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aquickgame2  Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 08 Jun 15 1.01pm |
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Quote becky at 08 Jun 2015 11.43am
Quote aquickgame2 at 08 Jun 2015 11.21am
Nothing round my part of London in the past 20 odd years has changed much....I love it. Started going downhill though, with the advent of Mo's corner shop.......
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| Pawson Palace Croydon 08 Jun 15 1.43pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Jun 2015 12.38pm
Quote The Sash at 08 Jun 2015 12.11pm
Quote Superfly at 08 Jun 2015 10.54am
That's what I love about the HOL. In order to keep each topic fresh and interesting, we always find a way to switch it to racism. Which isn't at all tedious. I blame them pesky immigrants... London's coolness is subsiding purely because of those North London types who seem to think all you need to do is grow a beard, live in a former slum and ride a unicycle to work to be cool and edgy rather than just an utter tw@t
Hahahha yes maybe very much. I saw some c**t wearing football boots in a bar not so long ago, it took all my restraint not to chin the c**t. Sometimes central London looks like a 'Nathen Barley' convention. I saw a guy with a waxed tash wearing bowling shoes...you know those garish half red half blue ones!! w***er.... On second thoughts maybe he was just an avid palace fan!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Jun 15 2.45pm |
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Quote Pawson Palace at 08 Jun 2015 1.43pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Jun 2015 12.38pm
Quote The Sash at 08 Jun 2015 12.11pm
Quote Superfly at 08 Jun 2015 10.54am
That's what I love about the HOL. In order to keep each topic fresh and interesting, we always find a way to switch it to racism. Which isn't at all tedious. I blame them pesky immigrants... London's coolness is subsiding purely because of those North London types who seem to think all you need to do is grow a beard, live in a former slum and ride a unicycle to work to be cool and edgy rather than just an utter tw@t
Hahahha yes maybe very much. I saw some c**t wearing football boots in a bar not so long ago, it took all my restraint not to chin the c**t. Sometimes central London looks like a 'Nathen Barley' convention. I saw a guy with a waxed tash wearing bowling shoes...you know those garish half red half blue ones!! w***er.... On second thoughts maybe he was just an avid palace fan! F**king hipsters. I quite liked the old 60s style of hipster dress, but the whole dress like a Mumford and Sons clown is just plain c**tish. Never met one I liked, precocious t***s.
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| The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 08 Jun 15 3.06pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Jun 2015 12.38pm
Quote The Sash at 08 Jun 2015 12.11pm
Quote Superfly at 08 Jun 2015 10.54am
That's what I love about the HOL. In order to keep each topic fresh and interesting, we always find a way to switch it to racism. Which isn't at all tedious. I blame them pesky immigrants... London's coolness is subsiding purely because of those North London types who seem to think all you need to do is grow a beard, live in a former slum and ride a unicycle to work to be cool and edgy rather than just an utter tw@t
Hahahha yes maybe very much. I saw some c**t wearing football boots in a bar not so long ago, it took all my restraint not to chin the c**t. Sometimes central London looks like a 'Nathen Barley' convention.
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| Southampton_Eagle At the after party 08 Jun 15 3.17pm |
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Quote The Sash at 08 Jun 2015 3.06pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Jun 2015 12.38pm
Quote The Sash at 08 Jun 2015 12.11pm
Quote Superfly at 08 Jun 2015 10.54am
That's what I love about the HOL. In order to keep each topic fresh and interesting, we always find a way to switch it to racism. Which isn't at all tedious. I blame them pesky immigrants... London's coolness is subsiding purely because of those North London types who seem to think all you need to do is grow a beard, live in a former slum and ride a unicycle to work to be cool and edgy rather than just an utter tw@t
Hahahha yes maybe very much. I saw some c**t wearing football boots in a bar not so long ago, it took all my restraint not to chin the c**t. Sometimes central London looks like a 'Nathen Barley' convention.
I was considering moving back to London last year but decided it's too much effort and expense.
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| npn Crowborough 08 Jun 15 3.42pm |
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Quote Southampton_Eagle at 08 Jun 2015 3.17pm
Quote The Sash at 08 Jun 2015 3.06pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Jun 2015 12.38pm
Quote The Sash at 08 Jun 2015 12.11pm
Quote Superfly at 08 Jun 2015 10.54am
That's what I love about the HOL. In order to keep each topic fresh and interesting, we always find a way to switch it to racism. Which isn't at all tedious. I blame them pesky immigrants... London's coolness is subsiding purely because of those North London types who seem to think all you need to do is grow a beard, live in a former slum and ride a unicycle to work to be cool and edgy rather than just an utter tw@t
Hahahha yes maybe very much. I saw some c**t wearing football boots in a bar not so long ago, it took all my restraint not to chin the c**t. Sometimes central London looks like a 'Nathen Barley' convention.
I was considering moving back to London last year but decided it's too much effort and expense.
Come up for work every day, go as far up as Croydon to see family, but not for me any more - give me tiny crime rates, friendly people, fresh are and greenery any day. Quite happy to go up for the central bits (culture, tourist attractions, etc) but the vast sprawling suburbia around it? Nah.
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