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View Mr Palaceman's Profile Mr Palaceman Flag 11 Feb 16 11.56am Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Genuinely interesting posts but I thought that I was going to get an update on the Top Gear thingy, when I saw the last post pop up..

Move along, nothing to see here.

 


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View Superfly's Profile Superfly Flag The sun always shines in Catford 11 Feb 16 11.57am Send a Private Message to Superfly Add Superfly as a friend

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

Genuinely interesting posts but I thought that I was going to get an update on the Top Gear thingy, when I saw the last post pop up..

Move along, nothing to see here.

Check the post before

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 11 Feb 16 12.15pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I kind of agree with a lot of this, though I do believe that to some degree the UK has a global responsibility, as well as a national one, given the increasingly global nature of politics - Which is odd given that I don't actually really subscribe to notions of National Identity and Nationalism, the reality is that representation must first and foremost be to the electorate, and not unelected interest groups, business or lobbyists etc.

A part of the problem with the right wing politics (including New Labour) has been to increasingly rely on third party influence, especially corporate and lobby interests on policy, over the electorate, and couple this with a reduction of the responsibility of state to its citizens, tax paying or otherwise, to charities - which have increasingly gained political power and status (even if its a 'good cause').

Take homelessness (for the left) increasingly this was something the state provided provision for through charitable organisations - when the responsibility for citizen welfare is a responsibility of the state - not business or charities. Similarly, the right has seen privatisation as a means of providing 'essential functions of state' (prisons, utilities).

In doing so, this has abdicated the 'social contract' between citizens and state, to unelected and largely unaccountable, third parties, who have as such increased their political influence beyond that of the electorate.


Can you take this to another thread please?

 


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View Mr Palaceman's Profile Mr Palaceman Flag 11 Feb 16 12.24pm Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by Superfly

Check the post before

Oops, sorry I'm missed the link Stuk put up, will have a look now.

Nothing wrong with the previous posts, genuinely good reads, just gone way off topic, which can happen.

 


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View Mr Palaceman's Profile Mr Palaceman Flag 11 Feb 16 12.31pm Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Someone at the BBC is in tick box heaven with this new line up!

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That is "tick box heaven". I am really looking forward to the show now. It could actually be better. Great looking line up.

My brother had told me that Chris Evans was saying that he didn't want other presenters on the show. He is obviously not in the know.

I can't wait.

 


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Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

Oops, sorry I'm missed the link Stuk put up, will have a look now.

Nothing wrong with the previous posts, genuinely good reads, just gone way off topic, which can happen.

It can happen but after 8 months and the thread being put back on topic, it's a tad annoying.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 11 Feb 16 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

That is "tick box heaven". I am really looking forward to the show now. It could actually be better. Great looking line up.

My brother had told me that Chris Evans was saying that he didn't want other presenters on the show. He is obviously not in the know.

I can't wait.

I'm not sure doubling the number of presenters is going to work, they'll probably thin them out as the public decides which ones they like.

Can't help but think Eddie Jordan had a contract to carry on doing F1, but as the BBC have given up their rights early thought they'd get something in return for their money instead of paying him for nothing.

 


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View Mr Palaceman's Profile Mr Palaceman Flag 11 Feb 16 1.05pm Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

I'm not sure doubling the number of presenters is going to work, they'll probably thin them out as the public decides which ones they like.

Can't help but think Eddie Jordan had a contract to carry on doing F1, but as the BBC have given up their rights early thought they'd get something in return for their money instead of paying him for nothing.

I think it could work with the extra two but as you say, I'm sure that they will see how it goes.

Top Gear was one of the few programmes that I actually used to look forward to watching but it had become a bit stuck imo, even before the problems with JC.

I like Matt LeBlanc, he is great in "Episodes" on the BBC as himself and Sabine is a proper car girlie.

I will be tuning in anyway as I lurve cars...

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 11 Feb 16 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

I think it could work with the extra two but as you say, I'm sure that they will see how it goes.

Top Gear was one of the few programmes that I actually used to look forward to watching but it had become a bit stuck imo, even before the problems with JC.

I like Matt LeBlanc, he is great in "Episodes" on the BBC as himself and Sabine is a proper car girlie.

I will be tuning in anyway as I lurve cars...

I liked Episodes as well (got out of sync with it halfway through one of the series though annoyingly) so wasn't too unhappy with LeBlanc and he actually knows his stuff. He's always turning up on various grids.

Sabine is a proper driver too, that Transit around the Nurburgring episode from years ago comes to mind.

 


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Hoof Hearted 11 Feb 16 2.24pm

Never liked the original format Top Gear with the likes of Noel Edmonds, Quentin Wilson and Vikki Butler-Henderson presenting over the years. Can't believe it actually started in 1977!

Sounds like EVans and his chums may be reverting to that original style format of it being a proper car show... I'm not a fan of Evans - his radio/TV shows are always heavily formatted which I find boring in the extreme.

I'm not interested in the mpg or horse power of a Lamborghini or Morgan, so I doubt that I will be tempted to tune in.

Clarkson's format of Top Gear was essentially a comedy show that I liked (Jackass for cars) and I hope he will continue this theme on Amazon Prime.

Still I can only blame the man himself for ruining it by punching some bloke in the face for not providing hot food!

 

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