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johnfirewall 22 Jun 15 4.37pm
Quote "You identify a million people who you'd like to take £1,000 away from and I'll do it." That's what a former Tory benefits axeman in the 1990's used to tell fellow MPs who urged him to find an easy £1bn cut from the nation's welfare bills. So, "all" that his successor, Iain Duncan Smith, and the Chancellor, George Osborne, have to do now is identify 12 million people they'd like to take £1,000 away from. The two men met with the prime minister last Thursday to find agreement on how to find the £12bn they've promised to cut from the nation's benefit bill in the next two years. It is not clear that they have yet found it. Well the lady in question is number 1.
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22 Jun 15 4.37pm

Quote "You identify a million people who you'd like to take £1,000 away from and I'll do it."

That's what a former Tory benefits axeman in the 1990's used to tell fellow MPs who urged him to find an easy £1bn cut from the nation's welfare bills.

So, "all" that his successor, Iain Duncan Smith, and the Chancellor, George Osborne, have to do now is identify 12 million people they'd like to take £1,000 away from.

The two men met with the prime minister last Thursday to find agreement on how to find the £12bn they've promised to cut from the nation's benefit bill in the next two years. It is not clear that they have yet found it.

Well the lady in question is number 1.

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Ray in Houston Houston 22 Jun 15 9.13pm
Quote becky at 22 Jun 2015 10.41am Of course what should be happening, but no-one ever mentions it, is that the two fathers should be paying for the keep of their children, then she wouldn't need so much benefit in the first place! This! This story is, of course, simply clickbait. People make horrible choices and it is almost always cheaper for us to bail them out than to let them – and their kids – fall deeper into degradation and become a greater burden / bane on society. But it would be far better to spend time, energy and money having child services (rather than “dole police”) looking at this case, and chasing down those who cheat on their obligations, be they child support dodgers or tax dodgers. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Quote becky at 22 Jun 2015 10.41am

Of course what should be happening, but no-one ever mentions it, is that the two fathers should be paying for the keep of their children, then she wouldn't need so much benefit in the first place!

This!

This story is, of course, simply clickbait. People make horrible choices and it is almost always cheaper for us to bail them out than to let them – and their kids – fall deeper into degradation and become a greater burden / bane on society.

But it would be far better to spend time, energy and money having child services (rather than “dole police”) looking at this case, and chasing down those who cheat on their obligations, be they child support dodgers or tax dodgers.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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TUX redhill 22 Jun 15 9.43pm
Quote becky at 22 Jun 2015 10.41am Of course what should be happening, but no-one ever mentions it, is that the two fathers should be paying for the keep of their children, then she wouldn't need so much benefit in the first place! What about the dirty slag keeping her legs shut to begin with? On another thread you are beyond keen to say that everyone is responsible for their own actions Becky. A point you seem keen to avoid for some reason here so you skipped quickly to the finale. Why change? Taking money from the fathers would do what in this instance? Save her a trip to Poland. Edited by TUX (22 Jun 2015 10.01pm)
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redhill 22 Jun 15 9.43pm

Quote becky at 22 Jun 2015 10.41am

Of course what should be happening, but no-one ever mentions it, is that the two fathers should be paying for the keep of their children, then she wouldn't need so much benefit in the first place!

What about the dirty slag keeping her legs shut to begin with? On another thread you are beyond keen to say that everyone is responsible for their own actions Becky. A point you seem keen to avoid for some reason here so you skipped quickly to the finale. Why change?

Taking money from the fathers would do what in this instance?
Save her a trip to Poland.

Edited by TUX (22 Jun 2015 10.01pm)

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Ray in Houston Houston 22 Jun 15 10.03pm
Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 9.43pm What about the dirty slag keeping her legs shut to begin with? A point you seem keen to avoid for some reason so skip quickly to the finale. Taking money from the fathers would do what in this instance? Save her a trip to Poland. Why is it only her responsibility to avoid having a baby? It takes two to tango. The difference is that she is stuck with the issue (both senses of the word) while the fathers get to skip off and do it again to someone else (see Sterling, Raheem). What would you say about her if she'd done what the fathers did; run to the hills? Giant...massive...double standard here. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Ray in Houston

Houston 22 Jun 15 10.03pm

Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 9.43pm

What about the dirty slag keeping her legs shut to begin with?
A point you seem keen to avoid for some reason so skip quickly to the finale.
Taking money from the fathers would do what in this instance?
Save her a trip to Poland.

Why is it only her responsibility to avoid having a baby? It takes two to tango. The difference is that she is stuck with the issue (both senses of the word) while the fathers get to skip off and do it again to someone else (see Sterling, Raheem).

What would you say about her if she'd done what the fathers did; run to the hills?

Giant...massive...double standard here.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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TUX redhill 22 Jun 15 10.27pm
Quote Ray in Houston at 22 Jun 2015 10.03pm Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 9.43pm What about the dirty slag keeping her legs shut to begin with? A point you seem keen to avoid for some reason so skip quickly to the finale. Taking money from the fathers would do what in this instance? Save her a trip to Poland. Why is it only her responsibility to avoid having a baby? It takes two to tango. The difference is that she is stuck with the issue (both senses of the word) while the fathers get to skip off and do it again to someone else (see Sterling, Raheem). What would you say about her if she'd done what the fathers did; run to the hills? Giant...massive...double standard here. Thanks for the biology lesson. Why are you going off topic? The only ''double standards'' here are from Becky.
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redhill 22 Jun 15 10.27pm

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Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 9.43pm

Why is it only her responsibility to avoid having a baby? It takes two to tango. The difference is that she is stuck with the issue (both senses of the word) while the fathers get to skip off and do it again to someone else (see Sterling, Raheem).

What would you say about her if she'd done what the fathers did; run to the hills?

Giant...massive...double standard here.

Thanks for the biology lesson.
Why are you going off topic? The only ''double standards'' here are from Becky.

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Ray in Houston Houston 22 Jun 15 10.56pm
Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 10.27pm Thanks for the biology lesson. Why are you going off topic? The only ''double standards'' here are from Becky. You said that she's a dirty slag because she opened her legs. How about the fathers that did a shoot and scoot, leaving this girl to deal with all the consequences, including financial, on her own? Blokes are just being "lads" when they have sex, girls are "dirty slags". That's the double standard. Edited by Ray in Houston (22 Jun 2015 10.56pm) We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Houston 22 Jun 15 10.56pm

Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 10.27pm

Thanks for the biology lesson.
Why are you going off topic? The only ''double standards'' here are from Becky.

You said that she's a dirty slag because she opened her legs. How about the fathers that did a shoot and scoot, leaving this girl to deal with all the consequences, including financial, on her own?

Blokes are just being "lads" when they have sex, girls are "dirty slags". That's the double standard.

Edited by Ray in Houston (22 Jun 2015 10.56pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Jun 15 11.01pm
Quote Ray in Houston at 22 Jun 2015 9.13pm But it would be far better to spend time, energy and money having child services (rather than “dole police”) looking at this case, and chasing down those who cheat on their obligations, be they child support dodgers or tax dodgers. Child support workers don't make money so their numbers have been depleted for the austerity drive.
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Shizzlehurst 22 Jun 15 11.01pm

Quote Ray in Houston at 22 Jun 2015 9.13pm

Child support workers don't make money so their numbers have been depleted for the austerity drive.

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TUX redhill 22 Jun 15 11.01pm
Quote Ray in Houston at 22 Jun 2015 10.56pm Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 10.27pm Thanks for the biology lesson. Why are you going off topic? The only ''double standards'' here are from Becky. You said that she's a dirty slag because she opened her legs. How about the fathers that did a shoot and scoot, leaving this girl to deal with all the consequences, including financial, on her own? Blokes are just being "lads" when they have sex, girls are "dirty slags". That's the double standard. Edited by Ray in Houston (22 Jun 2015 10.56pm) The 'onus' is on the woman to have a child whether you agree or not. If she chooses to fk a wrong'un then that's her choice. Blame nature, not me.
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redhill 22 Jun 15 11.01pm

Quote Ray in Houston at 22 Jun 2015 10.56pm

Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 10.27pm

Thanks for the biology lesson.
Why are you going off topic? The only ''double standards'' here are from Becky.

You said that she's a dirty slag because she opened her legs. How about the fathers that did a shoot and scoot, leaving this girl to deal with all the consequences, including financial, on her own?

Blokes are just being "lads" when they have sex, girls are "dirty slags". That's the double standard.

Edited by Ray in Houston (22 Jun 2015 10.56pm)

The 'onus' is on the woman to have a child whether you agree or not. If she chooses to fk a wrong'un then that's her choice.

Blame nature, not me.

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johnfirewall 22 Jun 15 11.05pm
Got this young lady on the News Shopper website who has found herself and her 6 year old homeless after being kicked out of her council flat. Basically a sob story until the truth slowly unravels in the comments... [Link]
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johnfirewall

22 Jun 15 11.05pm

Got this young lady on the News Shopper website who has found herself and her 6 year old homeless after being kicked out of her council flat.

Basically a sob story until the truth slowly unravels in the comments...

[Link]

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Ray in Houston Houston 22 Jun 15 11.20pm
Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 11.01pm The 'onus' is on the woman to have a child whether you agree or not. If she chooses to fk a wrong'un then that's her choice. Blame nature, not me. It seems you need another biology lesson. There are these things called condoms. The man puts it on his p** and is about 99.9999% certain of not impregnating the "wrong 'un" that he's fing. Edited by Ray in Houston (22 Jun 2015 11.23pm) We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa*ing with a football.
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Ray in Houston

Houston 22 Jun 15 11.20pm

Quote TUX at 22 Jun 2015 11.01pm

The 'onus' is on the woman to have a child whether you agree or not. If she chooses to fk a wrong'un then that's her choice.

Blame nature, not me.

It seems you need another biology lesson. There are these things called condoms. The man puts it on his p**** and is about 99.9999% certain of not impregnating the "wrong 'un" that he's f***ing.

Edited by Ray in Houston (22 Jun 2015 11.23pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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TUX redhill 22 Jun 15 11.24pm
Quote johnfirewall at 22 Jun 2015 11.05pm Got this young lady on the News Shopper website who has found herself and her 6 year old homeless after being kicked out of her council flat. Basically a sob story until the truth slowly unravels in the comments... [Link] Without knowing all the facts the son appeared to be far better off with his father. Possibly another case of a selfish mother?
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redhill 22 Jun 15 11.24pm

Quote johnfirewall at 22 Jun 2015 11.05pm

Got this young lady on the News Shopper website who has found herself and her 6 year old homeless after being kicked out of her council flat.

Basically a sob story until the truth slowly unravels in the comments...

[Link]

Without knowing all the facts the son appeared to be far better off with his father.
Possibly another case of a selfish mother?

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Ouzo Dan 22 Jun 15 11.29pm
Quote johnfirewall at 22 Jun 2015 11.05pm Got this young lady on the News Shopper website who has found herself and her 6 year old homeless after being kicked out of her council flat. Basically a sob story until the truth slowly unravels in the comments... [Link] Ha ha that comments section Benefit cheats f***ing sicken me. Sex Panther 60% of the time it works every time
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Ouzo Dan 22 Jun 15 11.29pm

Quote johnfirewall at 22 Jun 2015 11.05pm

Got this young lady on the News Shopper website who has found herself and her 6 year old homeless after being kicked out of her council flat.

Basically a sob story until the truth slowly unravels in the comments...

[Link]

Ha ha that comments section

Benefit cheats f***ing sicken me.

Sex Panther 60% of the time it works every time

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