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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Mar 20 5.01pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by doi209

I thought the deadline for PPE was last August. No my mistake, that was PPI.

Maybe the ambulance chasers will start TV advertising for 'did you fail to get PPE ?'

 

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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 29 Mar 20 5.19pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by Jamesey

Your post means nothing. Instead of whingeing try getting behind the government for the good of the nation at a time of crisis. Everyone except Corbyn and some of his acolytes appear to be accepting this.

The Labour mayor of Manchester is a beacon of sense in all his statements on LBC radio. The government is doing its best so try being constructive for a change.

Surely the constructive approach is a critical analysis of the response, not, as you seem to be suggesting, a blind support of our government's actions at a time when those actions matter more than ever?

Whatever your thoughts on Corbyn are, and I accept that there are very few who will say a positive word about him on here, it seems pretty reasonable for him to feel a little schadenfreude at the minute. He has essentially had his political credibility shattered in the past 5 years, because his proposals were too radical: spending too much, nationalising everything, bumping up welfare to implausible levels, offering a criticism of capitalism, whatever it was. Well, now we are in a situation where the government has plundered more money than he could ever have dreamed of, nationalised half of industry, is essentially paying the wages of the majority of Britain's workforce, and capitalism looks very much like its hit a crisis it may never recover from.

Is he being disingenuous in saying he was proved right? Yes. But I think there is a deeper significance to what's happening here, which is that the free market ideology which has dominated our politics for 40 years, and even to some degree the nationalistic one which fuelled Brexit, are luxury ideals that cannot survive moments of existential crisis. When our lives are at risk, it is cooperative, communalistic networks which save us from sliding in to barbarism.

My prediction? Boris will come out of this looking good, as most leaders around the world will, but he lacks the political imagination required to restructure an entire society, which with every day that passes looks more likely to be required. When society collapses, you need something more than a man who is essentially a PR-savvy narcissist at the helm.

 


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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 29 Mar 20 5.23pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

There is nothing factual about The Kings Fund.

It’s a left wing think tank.

Bless you, your naivety is adorable

Because nothing says you are left wing like naming your organisation after the King.

 


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Originally posted by serial thriller

Surely the constructive approach is a critical analysis of the response, not, as you seem to be suggesting, a blind support of our government's actions at a time when those actions matter more than ever?

Whatever your thoughts on Corbyn are, and I accept that there are very few who will say a positive word about him on here, it seems pretty reasonable for him to feel a little schadenfreude at the minute. He has essentially had his political credibility shattered in the past 5 years, because his proposals were too radical: spending too much, nationalising everything, bumping up welfare to implausible levels, offering a criticism of capitalism, whatever it was. Well, now we are in a situation where the government has plundered more money than he could ever have dreamed of, nationalised half of industry, is essentially paying the wages of the majority of Britain's workforce, and capitalism looks very much like its hit a crisis it may never recover from.

Is he being disingenuous in saying he was proved right? Yes. But I think there is a deeper significance to what's happening here, which is that the free market ideology which has dominated our politics for 40 years, and even to some degree the nationalistic one which fuelled Brexit, are luxury ideals that cannot survive moments of existential crisis. When our lives are at risk, it is cooperative, communalistic networks which save us from sliding in to barbarism.

My prediction? Boris will come out of this looking good, as most leaders around the world will, but he lacks the political imagination required to restructure an entire society, which with every day that passes looks more likely to be required. When society collapses, you need something more than a man who is essentially a PR-savvy narcissist at the helm.

What a pile of sour grapes turd.

Close this thread. Corbyn is irrelevant.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Mar 20 5.49pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

Surely the constructive approach is a critical analysis of the response, not, as you seem to be suggesting, a blind support of our government's actions at a time when those actions matter more than ever?

Whatever your thoughts on Corbyn are, and I accept that there are very few who will say a positive word about him on here, it seems pretty reasonable for him to feel a little schadenfreude at the minute. He has essentially had his political credibility shattered in the past 5 years, because his proposals were too radical: spending too much, nationalising everything, bumping up welfare to implausible levels, offering a criticism of capitalism, whatever it was. Well, now we are in a situation where the government has plundered more money than he could ever have dreamed of, nationalised half of industry, is essentially paying the wages of the majority of Britain's workforce, and capitalism looks very much like its hit a crisis it may never recover from.

Is he being disingenuous in saying he was proved right? Yes. But I think there is a deeper significance to what's happening here, which is that the free market ideology which has dominated our politics for 40 years, and even to some degree the nationalistic one which fuelled Brexit, are luxury ideals that cannot survive moments of existential crisis. When our lives are at risk, it is cooperative, communalistic networks which save us from sliding in to barbarism.

My prediction? Boris will come out of this looking good, as most leaders around the world will, but he lacks the political imagination required to restructure an entire society, which with every day that passes looks more likely to be required. When society collapses, you need something more than a man who is essentially a PR-savvy narcissist at the helm.

So the government should have locked us all down for 3 months and zipped its purse shut with the words not my problem you should've saved up.
Boris has intelligent people around him so no doubt the talk of normality is already being discussed.
Jeremy has diane abbot... end of chat.

 

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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 29 Mar 20 6.14pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So the government should have locked us all down for 3 months and zipped its purse shut with the words not my problem you should've saved up.
Boris has intelligent people around him so no doubt the talk of normality is already being discussed.
Jeremy has diane abbot... end of chat.

If you're going to suggest that someone is stupid, it isn't a good look if you spell their name wrong. Just a thought.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Mar 20 6.22pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

If you're going to suggest that someone is stupid, it isn't a good look if you spell their name wrong. Just a thought.

Oh come on she cant count so probably cant spell her own name either. Point was have the government done the correct thing in helping the masses? If jeremy and his cohorts would have done the same then you cant really criticise.
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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Mar 20 6.23pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

Surely the constructive approach is a critical analysis of the response, not, as you seem to be suggesting, a blind support of our government's actions at a time when those actions matter more than ever?

Whatever your thoughts on Corbyn are, and I accept that there are very few who will say a positive word about him on here, it seems pretty reasonable for him to feel a little schadenfreude at the minute. He has essentially had his political credibility shattered in the past 5 years, because his proposals were too radical: spending too much, nationalising everything, bumping up welfare to implausible levels, offering a criticism of capitalism, whatever it was. Well, now we are in a situation where the government has plundered more money than he could ever have dreamed of, nationalised half of industry, is essentially paying the wages of the majority of Britain's workforce, and capitalism looks very much like its hit a crisis it may never recover from.

Is he being disingenuous in saying he was proved right? Yes. But I think there is a deeper significance to what's happening here, which is that the free market ideology which has dominated our politics for 40 years, and even to some degree the nationalistic one which fuelled Brexit, are luxury ideals that cannot survive moments of existential crisis. When our lives are at risk, it is cooperative, communalistic networks which save us from sliding in to barbarism.

My prediction? Boris will come out of this looking good, as most leaders around the world will, but he lacks the political imagination required to restructure an entire society, which with every day that passes looks more likely to be required. When society collapses, you need something more than a man who is essentially a PR-savvy narcissist at the helm.

Corbyn is either a prophet or a useless cnut, depending on your red and blue beliefs, no pun intended! He wanted to pump lots of money into the nhs and bolster staff wages, lots of money, in case of a rainy day perhaps, WHEN THE FCUK IS THAT EVER GOING TO HAPPEN?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Mar 20 7.48pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Corbyn is either a prophet or a useless cnut, depending on your red and blue beliefs, no pun intended! He wanted to pump lots of money into the nhs and bolster staff wages, lots of money, in case of a rainy day perhaps, WHEN THE FCUK IS THAT EVER GOING TO HAPPEN?

And he wouldn't have been ready for the unknown either.

 

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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 29 Mar 20 8.55pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Oh come on she cant count so probably cant spell her own name either. Point was have the government done the correct thing in helping the masses? If jeremy and his cohorts would have done the same then you cant really criticise.
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Yeah but would a Labour government under Corbyn have spent the last 10 years cutting the NHS to the bone? Would they have prioritised finance and big business over social workers and public sector workers?

It's almost like a dark comedy...

Corbyn: save our NHS

Tories: Get Brexit done (employs private healthcare official as health secretary)

*Global pandemic pushed NHS past breaking point*

Tory voters: no one could've foreseen that the NHS was underprepared...

 


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Originally posted by serial thriller

Yeah but would a Labour government under Corbyn have spent the last 10 years cutting the NHS to the bone? Would they have prioritised finance and big business over social workers and public sector workers?

It's almost like a dark comedy...

Corbyn: save our NHS

Tories: Get Brexit done (employs private healthcare official as health secretary)

*Global pandemic pushed NHS past breaking point*

Tory voters: no one could've foreseen that the NHS was underprepared...

How can you be prepared for a global pandemic?

Please just accept that a socialist government isn't happening any time soon. It will save you wasting time.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Mar 20 10.41pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

Yeah but would a Labour government under Corbyn have spent the last 10 years cutting the NHS to the bone? Would they have prioritised finance and big business over social workers and public sector workers?

It's almost like a dark comedy...

Corbyn: save our NHS

Tories: Get Brexit done (employs private healthcare official as health secretary)

*Global pandemic pushed NHS past breaking point*

Tory voters: no one could've foreseen that the NHS was underprepared...

How would the NHS have been saved by corbyn in 3 months. Personally i reckon probably 90 odd % who need the NHS get what they expect. You can rattle off the bad stories but you wont find the good ones and if you did you wouldn't want to highlight it as it doesnt fit your anti tory agenda.
You can cherry pick any fact to fit an agenda, in this case the 90odd% is a positive fact.

 

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