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Quote fed up eagle at 21 Aug 2015 8.57pm

As has been said on this thread, all the candidates are uninspiring, and Labour and their policies are just a load of old dross. The politics of spite and envy.


I see your still fed up then

 


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suicideatselhurst Flag crawley 01 Sep 15 5.05am

Despite Corbyns obvious links with sinn fein and adsams,I was prepared to give him the benifit of the doubt, however when interviewed on Radio 5 a few weeks ago he was asked 5 times to condom the violence of the ira, he did not, but condemened all violence, and was even happy enough to condem the "violence" used by the British Army, but not the ira...totaly lost me

 


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Quote suicideatselhurst at 01 Sep 2015 5.05am

Despite Corbyns obvious links with sinn fein and adsams,I was prepared to give him the benifit of the doubt, however when interviewed on Radio 5 a few weeks ago he was asked 5 times to condom the violence of the ira, he did not, but condemened all violence, and was even happy enough to condem the "violence" used by the British Army, but not the ira...totaly lost me


Condem not condom

 


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Quote suicideatselhurst at 01 Sep 2015 5.05am

Despite Corbyns obvious links with sinn fein and adsams,I was prepared to give him the benifit of the doubt, however when interviewed on Radio 5 a few weeks ago he was asked 5 times to condom the violence of the ira, he did not, but condemened all violence, and was even happy enough to condem the "violence" used by the British Army, but not the ira...totaly lost me


Condem not condom

Well as Corbyn is totally up the IRA's arse you wouldn't be wrong.

 


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Quote suicideatselhurst at 01 Sep 2015 5.08am

Quote suicideatselhurst at 01 Sep 2015 5.05am

Despite Corbyns obvious links with sinn fein and adsams,I was prepared to give him the benifit of the doubt, however when interviewed on Radio 5 a few weeks ago he was asked 5 times to condom the violence of the ira, he did not, but condemened all violence, and was even happy enough to condem the "violence" used by the British Army, but not the ira...totaly lost me


Condem not condom

Well as Corbyn is totally up the IRA's arse you wouldn't be wrong.


Bit ironic given Sinn Fein are basically a nationalist party.

 

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Quote Kermit8 at 31 Aug 2015 10.56pm

Putting someone on trial and showing compassion are not even close to being the same thing Mr H. Ask Ian Brady.

And pray tell how you would have got Bin Laden to come quietly and give himself up for trial? Did Bin Laden hold his hands up and want to be put before a trial when the marines arrived at his compound? No, he reached for his AK and used one of his wives as a human shield whilst firing indiscrimately.

The gap between leftie idealism and reality is astonishing.

 


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Quote matt_himself at 01 Sep 2015 7.56am

Quote Kermit8 at 31 Aug 2015 10.56pm

Putting someone on trial and showing compassion are not even close to being the same thing Mr H. Ask Ian Brady.

And pray tell how you would have got Bin Laden to come quietly and give himself up for trial? Did Bin Laden hold his hands up and want to be put before a trial when the marines arrived at his compound? No, he reached for his AK and used one of his wives as a human shield whilst firing indiscrimately.

The gap between leftie idealism and reality is astonishing.

I think that you've been watching too many films, there was no hollywood type shootout, just a simple execution. America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial.


 

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Quote matt_himself at 01 Sep 2015 7.56am

Quote Kermit8 at 31 Aug 2015 10.56pm

Putting someone on trial and showing compassion are not even close to being the same thing Mr H. Ask Ian Brady.

And pray tell how you would have got Bin Laden to come quietly and give himself up for trial? Did Bin Laden hold his hands up and want to be put before a trial when the marines arrived at his compound? No, he reached for his AK and used one of his wives as a human shield whilst firing indiscrimately.

The gap between leftie idealism and reality is astonishing.

I think that you've been watching too many films, there was no hollywood type shootout, just a simple execution. America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial.



I think you have chosen to believe what you want to believe.

Of course America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial because it would never have been Bin Laden's intention to go on trial.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

 


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Quote matt_himself at 01 Sep 2015 9.52am

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Sep 2015 9.40am

Quote matt_himself at 01 Sep 2015 7.56am

Quote Kermit8 at 31 Aug 2015 10.56pm

Putting someone on trial and showing compassion are not even close to being the same thing Mr H. Ask Ian Brady.

And pray tell how you would have got Bin Laden to come quietly and give himself up for trial? Did Bin Laden hold his hands up and want to be put before a trial when the marines arrived at his compound? No, he reached for his AK and used one of his wives as a human shield whilst firing indiscrimately.

The gap between leftie idealism and reality is astonishing.

I think that you've been watching too many films, there was no hollywood type shootout, just a simple execution. America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial.



I think you have chosen to believe what you want to believe.

Of course America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial because it would never have been Bin Laden's intention to go on trial.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.[/quote

First, again there was no shoot-out, and Bin-Laden was unarmed when shot. Not any moral judgements just facts, you were wrong.

Second, whether bin laden wanted to go on trial or not is completely irrelevant. I'm sure plenty of criminals don't want to go on trial but funnily enough, once incarcerated they don't have a choice. America had the capacity to arrest and try him, but execution was what they set out to do.

 

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Quote ghosteagle at 01 Sep 2015 10.04am

Quote matt_himself at 01 Sep 2015 9.52am

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Sep 2015 9.40am

Quote matt_himself at 01 Sep 2015 7.56am

Quote Kermit8 at 31 Aug 2015 10.56pm

Putting someone on trial and showing compassion are not even close to being the same thing Mr H. Ask Ian Brady.

And pray tell how you would have got Bin Laden to come quietly and give himself up for trial? Did Bin Laden hold his hands up and want to be put before a trial when the marines arrived at his compound? No, he reached for his AK and used one of his wives as a human shield whilst firing indiscrimately.

The gap between leftie idealism and reality is astonishing.

I think that you've been watching too many films, there was no hollywood type shootout, just a simple execution. America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial.



I think you have chosen to believe what you want to believe.

Of course America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial because it would never have been Bin Laden's intention to go on trial.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.[/quote

First, again there was no shoot-out, and Bin-Laden was unarmed when shot. Not any moral judgements just facts, you were wrong.

Second, whether bin laden wanted to go on trial or not is completely irrelevant. I'm sure plenty of criminals don't want to go on trial but funnily enough, once incarcerated they don't have a choice. America had the capacity to arrest and try him, but execution was what they set out to do.


So what ?

 


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Quote ghosteagle at 01 Sep 2015 9.40am

Quote matt_himself at 01 Sep 2015 7.56am

Quote Kermit8 at 31 Aug 2015 10.56pm

Putting someone on trial and showing compassion are not even close to being the same thing Mr H. Ask Ian Brady.

And pray tell how you would have got Bin Laden to come quietly and give himself up for trial? Did Bin Laden hold his hands up and want to be put before a trial when the marines arrived at his compound? No, he reached for his AK and used one of his wives as a human shield whilst firing indiscrimately.

The gap between leftie idealism and reality is astonishing.

I think that you've been watching too many films, there was no hollywood type shootout, just a simple execution. America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial.



At least the yanks got it right for once

 


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Quote dannyh at 01 Sep 2015 10.36am

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Sep 2015 10.04am

Quote matt_himself at 01 Sep 2015 9.52am

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Sep 2015 9.40am

Quote matt_himself at 01 Sep 2015 7.56am

Quote Kermit8 at 31 Aug 2015 10.56pm

Putting someone on trial and showing compassion are not even close to being the same thing Mr H. Ask Ian Brady.

And pray tell how you would have got Bin Laden to come quietly and give himself up for trial? Did Bin Laden hold his hands up and want to be put before a trial when the marines arrived at his compound? No, he reached for his AK and used one of his wives as a human shield whilst firing indiscrimately.

The gap between leftie idealism and reality is astonishing.

I think that you've been watching too many films, there was no hollywood type shootout, just a simple execution. America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial.



I think you have chosen to believe what you want to believe.

Of course America never had any intention of bringing him back for trial because it would never have been Bin Laden's intention to go on trial.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.[/quote

First, again there was no shoot-out, and Bin-Laden was unarmed when shot. Not any moral judgements just facts, you were wrong.

Second, whether bin laden wanted to go on trial or not is completely irrelevant. I'm sure plenty of criminals don't want to go on trial but funnily enough, once incarcerated they don't have a choice. America had the capacity to arrest and try him, but execution was what they set out to do.


So what ?

So, matt was wrong in his argument that it was impossible to bring Osama to trial. I'm not making moral judgements just establishing the facts.

 

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