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Nonce case, nonce case, hang him hang him hang him.

 

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Quote becky at 05 Aug 2015 6.46am

What puzzles me is why they are spending so much time and using up police resources (when they can't now even attend a burglary) on digging up the dirt on a man who died 10 years ago....... hardly likely to get a conviction now are they?

Edited by becky (05 Aug 2015 6.46am)

Shouldn't the crimes be investigated as there could be people who are alive today who could be linked and guilty? There are certainly victims who are alive that would like to see these vile people investigated.

I've got nothing against them being investigated per se, but when - as Becky pointed out - you've got the head of the NPCC coming out and saying the police are basically not interested in muggings, burglaries, car break-ins, shoplifting, possession of drugs, dangerous driving, vandalism, drunken disorderliness... the list goes on. When the police say this stuff is too unimportant to be on the radar, then I think citizens have a right to feel a bit short-changed when FOUR (count them) police forces find they do have the resources to investigate allegations about Ted Heath (for which there is very little concrete evidence in the public domain.)

 


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Quote Johnny Eagles at 05 Aug 2015 2.15pm

Quote johnno42000 at 05 Aug 2015 11.40am

Quote becky at 05 Aug 2015 6.46am

What puzzles me is why they are spending so much time and using up police resources (when they can't now even attend a burglary) on digging up the dirt on a man who died 10 years ago....... hardly likely to get a conviction now are they?

Edited by becky (05 Aug 2015 6.46am)

Shouldn't the crimes be investigated as there could be people who are alive today who could be linked and guilty? There are certainly victims who are alive that would like to see these vile people investigated.

I've got nothing against them being investigated per se, but when - as Becky pointed out - you've got the head of the NPCC coming out and saying the police are basically not interested in muggings, burglaries, car break-ins, shoplifting, possession of drugs, dangerous driving, vandalism, drunken disorderliness... the list goes on. When the police say this stuff is too unimportant to be on the radar, then I think citizens have a right to feel a bit short-changed when FOUR (count them) police forces find they do have the resources to investigate allegations about Ted Heath (for which there is very little concrete evidence in the public domain.)

Don't really understand the bit about the public domain. It would make the investigation incredibly easy if the information were readily available in the public domain but as this ex-whip indicated things regarding scandals with small boys were hushed up. [Link]

The part about the police not investigating certain crimes is down to resources being cut. If you keep doing this things we once regarded as the normal state of affairs will be hit.

 


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Yet another disgusting f***ing member of that evil lowlife scumbag clan, not deserving to have ever drawn breath. Sickening.

And on top of his political leanings, possibly a nonce too. Yuk!

(Ay thang yaw...)

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Aug 15 4.24pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 05 Aug 2015 2.15pm

Quote johnno42000 at 05 Aug 2015 11.40am

Quote becky at 05 Aug 2015 6.46am

What puzzles me is why they are spending so much time and using up police resources (when they can't now even attend a burglary) on digging up the dirt on a man who died 10 years ago....... hardly likely to get a conviction now are they?

Edited by becky (05 Aug 2015 6.46am)

Shouldn't the crimes be investigated as there could be people who are alive today who could be linked and guilty? There are certainly victims who are alive that would like to see these vile people investigated.

I've got nothing against them being investigated per se, but when - as Becky pointed out - you've got the head of the NPCC coming out and saying the police are basically not interested in muggings, burglaries, car break-ins, shoplifting, possession of drugs, dangerous driving, vandalism, drunken disorderliness... the list goes on. When the police say this stuff is too unimportant to be on the radar, then I think citizens have a right to feel a bit short-changed when FOUR (count them) police forces find they do have the resources to investigate allegations about Ted Heath (for which there is very little concrete evidence in the public domain.)

Budget cuts, its much easier and cost effective to investigate someone who won't need to be interviewed, cautioned, tried, imprisoned, appeal etc than someone who would. Plus its a good source of crime statistics, as you can pin a load of crimes on one person, without actually having to prove it in court.

Most of the investigating will be cheap too, interviews, so its just manpower.

Meanwhile, a B+E is a nightmare. You've got the officer responding, specialist crime unit (Detectives and Forensics), statements, witness reports and follow up. Likely as not, you've got to hope the individual is in the system for something. Otherwise its an unsolved, on record as a statistic (so lots of admin costs) Then when you do get someone, likely as not you need to appoint a solicitor, conduct more interviews, even more paperwork and admin bring in CPS, officer needs to make a court apperance and the magistrates court to get a minor conviction, of six months (prison costs now apply) or if it goes big, you've got to now attend crown court, provide a judge and jury, more admin, more apperances, more costs. Then the appeals and sentence reviews, prison costs etc...

Dead nonses are the police dream. Couple of officers time, a few interviews, some CPS meetings and a meeting with legal (to make sure you don't push it too far and end up getting sued). Throw out some platitudes and compensation for not believing them at the time, and go on record as solving a load of sex crimes, admittedly ones you just added to the system, but ones that will obfuscate your actual clearance rate.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Aug 15 4.26pm

Quote johnno42000 at 05 Aug 2015 2.41pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 05 Aug 2015 2.15pm

Quote johnno42000 at 05 Aug 2015 11.40am

Quote becky at 05 Aug 2015 6.46am

What puzzles me is why they are spending so much time and using up police resources (when they can't now even attend a burglary) on digging up the dirt on a man who died 10 years ago....... hardly likely to get a conviction now are they?

Edited by becky (05 Aug 2015 6.46am)

Shouldn't the crimes be investigated as there could be people who are alive today who could be linked and guilty? There are certainly victims who are alive that would like to see these vile people investigated.

I've got nothing against them being investigated per se, but when - as Becky pointed out - you've got the head of the NPCC coming out and saying the police are basically not interested in muggings, burglaries, car break-ins, shoplifting, possession of drugs, dangerous driving, vandalism, drunken disorderliness... the list goes on. When the police say this stuff is too unimportant to be on the radar, then I think citizens have a right to feel a bit short-changed when FOUR (count them) police forces find they do have the resources to investigate allegations about Ted Heath (for which there is very little concrete evidence in the public domain.)

Don't really understand the bit about the public domain. It would make the investigation incredibly easy if the information were readily available in the public domain but as this ex-whip indicated things regarding scandals with small boys were hushed up. [Link]

The part about the police not investigating certain crimes is down to resources being cut. If you keep doing this things we once regarded as the normal state of affairs will be hit.

In fairness, looking back, it doesn't seem that the Police were necessarily investigating crimes back then either. I'd rather the police focused on crimes like rape of a minor, conspiracy to procure a child for sexual abuse, and assorted sex offences against children than say drunk and disorderly, drug offences, public order offences.

After all, its important to remember, that children were being raped.


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Aug 2015 4.26pm

Quote johnno42000 at 05 Aug 2015 2.41pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 05 Aug 2015 2.15pm

Quote johnno42000 at 05 Aug 2015 11.40am

Quote becky at 05 Aug 2015 6.46am

What puzzles me is why they are spending so much time and using up police resources (when they can't now even attend a burglary) on digging up the dirt on a man who died 10 years ago....... hardly likely to get a conviction now are they?

Edited by becky (05 Aug 2015 6.46am)

Shouldn't the crimes be investigated as there could be people who are alive today who could be linked and guilty? There are certainly victims who are alive that would like to see these vile people investigated.

I've got nothing against them being investigated per se, but when - as Becky pointed out - you've got the head of the NPCC coming out and saying the police are basically not interested in muggings, burglaries, car break-ins, shoplifting, possession of drugs, dangerous driving, vandalism, drunken disorderliness... the list goes on. When the police say this stuff is too unimportant to be on the radar, then I think citizens have a right to feel a bit short-changed when FOUR (count them) police forces find they do have the resources to investigate allegations about Ted Heath (for which there is very little concrete evidence in the public domain.)

Don't really understand the bit about the public domain. It would make the investigation incredibly easy if the information were readily available in the public domain but as this ex-whip indicated things regarding scandals with small boys were hushed up. [Link]

The part about the police not investigating certain crimes is down to resources being cut. If you keep doing this things we once regarded as the normal state of affairs will be hit.

In fairness, looking back, it doesn't seem that the Police were necessarily investigating crimes back then either. I'd rather the police focused on crimes like rape of a minor, conspiracy to procure a child for sexual abuse, and assorted sex offences against children than say drunk and disorderly, drug offences, public order offences.

After all, its important to remember, that children were being raped.


Very fair point although it does seem that some investigation was done but not followed through with for whatever reasons (and I really hope these reasons come out).

 


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How about they get on with it in the northern towns right now, where the nonces are busy grooming young girls(with utter contempt for the law), rather than bothering with dead old cunce.
needs looked at but shocking waste of man power involving so many coppers.

 


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Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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Quote kingdowieonthewall at 06 Aug 2015 5.27pm

How about they get on with it in the northern towns right now, where the nonces are busy grooming young girls(with utter contempt for the law), rather than bothering with dead old cunce.
needs looked at but shocking waste of man power involving so many coppers.

Its not a shocking waste if you were a victim. Your first point does not preclude the second

 

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