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 Mr_Gristle  In the land of Whelk Eaters 05 Feb 16 11.09pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I have read that the crime Assange is accused of is allegedly 'changing lanes without indicating'. Shouldn't find this funny, but.......... Regardless, Governments don't like it when you expose some of their less than noble and righteous activities. By some measures, he's perhaps lucky to still be breathing. I hope he continues to be an irritant. Oh he's clearly a fatuous egotist, but anything that holds our hypocritical governments to even the slightest account works for me.
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| thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 05 Feb 16 11.51pm |
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do wonder why the swedish authorities after so much time didnt do a deal and interview him in the embassy when it was obvious he isnt planning on coming out of there whilst he is still alive or sane..costing us poor bloody tax payers a fortune to police it....on saying that it would be funny if they did some escape ie dressed as a woman in a fake london taxi
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| Stuk Top half 08 Feb 16 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by thegreatlardino
do wonder why the swedish authorities after so much time didnt do a deal and interview him in the embassy when it was obvious he isnt planning on coming out of there whilst he is still alive or sane..costing us poor bloody tax payers a fortune to police it....on saying that it would be funny if they did some escape ie dressed as a woman in a fake london taxi They shouldn't have to, and it's funny watching him bitch and moan about it. Might as well get some enjoyment out of the £12m of tax he's wasted. Alternatively I hoped they were going to lasso him when he made one of his pretentious speeches from the balcony.
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| npn Crowborough 08 Feb 16 1.41pm |
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someone needs to send the UN a dictionary with the definition of "detained" highlighted in it. There is a European arrest warrant out on him, which we are legally obliged to enforce, if the dopey, arrogant, tw@t would rather stay in an embassy, let him knock himself out!
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| rob1969 Banstead Surrey 08 Feb 16 1.44pm |
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So some UN Knxobs reckon we are holding him here against his will. How the hell do they arrive at that conclusion bearing in mind he went to the Ecuador embassy of his own free will and is welcome to leave it at anytime. Pay him compensation! What jokers.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Feb 16 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
MI5/MI6/Special Branch would have made him disappear in the good old days. In the old days, he'd have been working for them or a similar agency. I wouldn't be surprised to find members of assorted secret services using Wikileaks or part of its structure.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Feb 16 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by rob1969
So some UN Knxobs reckon we are holding him here against his will. How the hell do they arrive at that conclusion bearing in mind he went to the Ecuador embassy of his own free will and is welcome to leave it at anytime. Pay him compensation! What jokers. From a legal standpoint their probably right, and the UK in reversed situations would claim the same. Once Ecuador gave him asylum, the UK should have allowed him to leave the country under the assorted UN rules on Embassy and granting asylum etc. Instead the UK has dedicated police officers into 24 hour surveillance - a level of dedication that most sex offence victims don't experience in the UK. In fact most people going to the police with accusations of sexual assault get a s**t deal, unless it appears that they've seriously pissed off the US. Its also questionable why Sweden would have waited something like 40 odd days, when Assange was in Sweeden and applying for a renewal of his working permit, to arrest him, or even interview him in regards to the crimes (Reported on Aug 17, and a warrant was issued on the 27th September - the day he left Sweden). The bloke is probably a c**t, maybe a sex offender but the state is basically after him because he's embarrassed them and a the US, not out of any sense of justice or right.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Feb 16 2.04pm |
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Originally posted by npn
someone needs to send the UN a dictionary with the definition of "detained" highlighted in it. There is a European arrest warrant out on him, which we are legally obliged to enforce, if the dopey, arrogant, tw@t would rather stay in an embassy, let him knock himself out! Its a bit more complex, because he's been granted asylum by Ecuador. Typically, granted someone asylum in an embassy, results in protection of them from persecution in that country. The US and UK commonly have done this through the ages, with spies, 'traitors' and defectors. Stopping a diplomatic vehicle to arrest someone granted asylum by the owning nation is something, that were the situation reversed, the UK would consider a potential act of war.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 Feb 16 2.05pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
From a legal standpoint their probably right, and the UK in reversed situations would claim the same. Once Ecuador gave him asylum, the UK should have allowed him to leave the country under the assorted UN rules on Embassy and granting asylum etc. Instead the UK has dedicated police officers into 24 hour surveillance - a level of dedication that most sex offence victims don't experience in the UK. In fact most people going to the police with accusations of sexual assault get a s**t deal, unless it appears that they've seriously pissed off the US. Its also questionable why Sweden would have waited something like 40 odd days, when Assange was in Sweeden and applying for a renewal of his working permit, to arrest him, or even interview him in regards to the crimes (Reported on Aug 17, and a warrant was issued on the 27th September - the day he left Sweden). The bloke is probably a c**t, maybe a sex offender but the state is basically after him because he's embarrassed them and a the US, not out of any sense of justice or right. Personally, I think that the sexual assault allegations are a clumsily fabricated crock of sh*t designed to facilitate his extradition.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Feb 16 2.10pm |
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Originally posted by rob1969
So some UN Knxobs reckon we are holding him here against his will. How the hell do they arrive at that conclusion bearing in mind he went to the Ecuador embassy of his own free will and is welcome to leave it at anytime. Pay him compensation! What jokers. They are, at least in terms of the law, correct. As a citizen who has sought and been granted asylum at a Embassy, it would be illegal under international law to arrest him, even if there is a warrant out for his arrest. It would be an 'act of war' to arrest him in a diplomatic vehicle or within the grounds - Posting police to arrest him on site is technically detaining him. No matter how much of a c**t he might be, the legal obligation under UN Law would have been for the UK to grant him diplomatic passage to airport, and allow him to travel to Ecuador. All recognised countries are extended the same legal rights and protections to their Embassies and those who seek asylum within them.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Feb 16 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Personally, I think that the sexual assault allegations are a clumsily fabricated crock of sh*t designed to facilitate his extradition. A given really, especially when you look at how the UK and countries, generally regard allegations of sexual assault. If he is extradited to Sweden, he'll barely clear the airport before being on a flight to the US.
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| Stuk Top half 08 Feb 16 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
From a legal standpoint their probably right, and the UK in reversed situations would claim the same. Once Ecuador gave him asylum, the UK should have allowed him to leave the country under the assorted UN rules on Embassy and granting asylum etc. Instead the UK has dedicated police officers into 24 hour surveillance - a level of dedication that most sex offence victims don't experience in the UK. In fact most people going to the police with accusations of sexual assault get a s**t deal, unless it appears that they've seriously pissed off the US. Its also questionable why Sweden would have waited something like 40 odd days, when Assange was in Sweeden and applying for a renewal of his working permit, to arrest him, or even interview him in regards to the crimes (Reported on Aug 17, and a warrant was issued on the 27th September - the day he left Sweden). The bloke is probably a c**t, maybe a sex offender but the state is basically after him because he's embarrassed them and a the US, not out of any sense of justice or right. They're not They don't Undoubtedly If by "the state", you mean the UK, then you're wrong. We aren't "after him", we've been asked to extradite him as he's a wanted man.
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